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克雷格-莫德(Craig Mod)归来--在日本的史诗般的漫步、慢的艺术、数字排毒、出版 "不可能 "的书,以及选择美而不是规模 (#803) || Craig Mod Returns — Epic Walks in Japan, The Art of Slowness, Digital Detox, Publishing “Impossible” Books, and Choosing Beauty Over Scale (#803)

2025-03-28 23:17:44


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克雷格·莫德回归:日本史诗级徒步之旅、慢生活艺术、数字排毒、出版“不可能”的书籍以及选择美丽而非规模 (播客总结)

这篇博文总结了蒂姆·费里斯播客对克雷格·莫德的采访。克雷格·莫德是一位居住在日本东京和镰仓的作家、摄影师和徒步旅行者,著有《事物变成其他事物》和《喫茶店之旅》等书。他曾在日本徒步旅行数千英里,并与凯文·凯利共同组织了多次“行走与谈话”活动。

采访中,莫德分享了他对慢生活、数字排毒和可持续创作的理念。他谈到了自己长达数月的徒步旅行经历,以及如何通过这些旅行体验生活,并从中获得灵感。他强调了在徒步旅行中培养无聊感的重要性,以及如何通过限制信息获取来提升专注力。

莫德还分享了他出版书籍的经历,以及如何选择小规模、可持续的创作模式,而不是追求大规模的商业成功。他谈到了自己建立会员制度的经验,以及如何通过这种方式获得创作自由和经济独立。

此外,莫德还讲述了他为《纽约时报》推荐日本盛冈市的故事,以及由此带来的短暂的媒体关注。他与日本著名电视明星田森一起在盛冈徒步旅行,这段经历让他感受到了前所未有的关注。

最后,莫德分享了他与生母重逢的故事,以及他对未来计划的思考。

采访中还涵盖了莫德的徒步路线、书籍、电影、人物、地点以及一些概念,例如“六叠榻榻米房间”、“慢行规则”、“会员制度”等等。 总而言之,这是一次关于慢生活、数字排毒、可持续创作以及对生活意义探索的精彩访谈。


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“I would finish every day on these walks, get in bed, and just feel that was the fullest possible way I could have experienced that day. Given the cards dealt to me of this day, there was no fuller version of this day.”
— Craig Mod

As promised, welcome to round 2 with Craig Mod!

Craig Mod is a writer, photographer, and walker living in Tokyo and Kamakura, Japan. He is the author of Things Become Other Things and Kissa by Kissa. He also writes the newsletters Roden and Ridgeline and has contributed to The New York Times, The Atlantic, Wired, and more. 

He’s walked thousands of miles across Japan, and since 2016, he has been co-running “Walk and Talks” with Kevin Kelly in various places around the world: the Cotswolds, Northern Thailand, walking across Bali, Southern China, Japan, Spain (Portuguese and French Caminos), and more. He’s a MacDowell fellow, Virginia Center for Creative Arts fellow, and Ragdale fellow.

In 2023 he wrote an impassioned recommendation of Morioka, Japan, to The New York Times, prompting the paper to rank the city number two (behind London) for “Places to Visit in 2023,” turning Mod into a minor celebrity. He sat for interviews with some forty or fifty newspapers and TV shows, trying to explain the goodness of a city like Morioka to people for whom the goodness is so self-evident that it has become invisible. This whole media dance culminated in his going on a two-­day walk around Morioka with one of Japan’s biggest TV stars: the seventy-­nine-­year-old, sunglasses-­wearing Tamori -­san, who was lovely (and very tiny!). The response—a total heartfelt reverence for the avuncular Tamori—from people on the street (“Good morning, Tamori -­san!,” yelled construction workers from atop their scaffolding) made Mod feel like he was walking with John Lennon. Mod’s moment of celebrity was mercifully short-lived. Nobody recognizes him anymore when he walks around town.

Please enjoy!

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Want to hear round one of this conversation with Craig Mod? Listen here as we discuss Craig’s journey from a post-industrial Connecticut town to Japan, advice for adults who want to pick up the Japanese language, bizarre homestay stories, struggles with spirits of sauce and the supernatural, and much more.


What was your favorite quote or lesson from this episode? Please let me know in the comments.

SELECTED LINKS FROM THE EPISODE

  • Connect with Craig Mod:

Website | Bluesky | Instagram | YouTube | Roden (Monthly Newsletter) | Ridgeline (Weekly Newsletter)

The transcript of this episode can be found here. Transcripts of all episodes can be found here.

Books and Written Works

Movies and TV Shows

People

  • Wim Wenders: German filmmaker (Perfect Days, Tokyo-Ga).
  • Yasujirō Ozu: Influential Japanese filmmaker known for quiet family dramas, contemporary of Kurosawa.
  • Akira Kurosawa: Famous Japanese filmmaker (Seven Samurai).
  • Matsuo Bashō: Most famous poet of the Edo period in Japan, known for haiku and his travelogue Oku no Hosomichi.
  • John McBride: Craig Mod’s older mentor, former Monbukagakusho scholar, CEO of Sky TV, tea ceremony expert, accomplished walker, fluent in high-level Japanese. Huge influence on Craig’s walking and interaction style.
  • Brad Towle: Canadian man on the JET program in Tanabe City, key figure in promoting the Nakahechi trail in English.
  • Rupert Murdoch: Mentioned as founder connected to Sky TV.
  • Masayoshi Son: CEO of SoftBank, mentioned as an acquaintance of John McBride.
  • David Spector: Mentioned as an example of a gaijin tarento (foreign celebrity) in Japan during the ’90s.
  • Kevin Kelly: Writer, co-founder of Wired, friend and walking partner of Craig Mod (Walk & Talks). Encouraged Craig in various ventures.
  • Dan Rubin: Photographer friend who walked Kumano Kodo with Craig and co-created a photo book.
  • Hugh Howey: Author (Silo series/Wool), walked Kumano Kodo with Craig and Kevin Kelly.
  • Anne Lamott: Author of Bird by Bird.
  • Noah Kagan: Friend of Tim Ferriss, mentioned regarding skepticism about chasing scale.
  • gray318 (Jon Gray): Designer (known for Zadie Smith covers) who provided feedback to Craig.
  • Zadie Smith: Author whose book covers Jon Gray designed.
  • Bryan: Craig Mod’s childhood best friend who was murdered; a central figure in the book Things Become Other Things.
  • Terry Gross: Host of NPR’s “Fresh Air,” mentioned as a platform often requiring traditional publisher backing.
  • Andy Ward: Publisher/President of Random House, editor of George Saunders, involved in acquiring Craig’s book.
  • George Saunders: Author admired by Craig Mod, edited by Andy Ward.
  • Molly Turpin: Craig Mod’s editor at Random House for Things Become Other Things.
  • Brandon Sanderson: Author mentioned regarding securing specific book rights (leather-bound editions).
  • Gideon Lewis-Kraus: Writer mentioned for an article on Korea’s declining birthrate.
  • Tamori (Tamori-san): Extremely famous, long-running Japanese TV celebrity who did a walking special in Morioka with Craig Mod.
  • Neil Strauss: Writer, mentioned as a user of the Freedom software.
  • Jack Kornfield: Meditation teacher and author who knows a thing or two about self-compassion.
  • David Mitchell: Author (Cloud Atlas, etc.), admired Craig’s book Things Become Other Things and provided a blurb/email.

Places

Walks, Routes, and Trails

  • Oku no Hosomichi: Famous trail/journey undertaken by Bashō, later walked by John McBride.
  • Tōkaidō: Major historical road connecting Edo (Tokyo) and Kyoto along the coast. Also the name of a Shinkansen line. Walked by John McBride, Craig Mod.
  • Shikoku Pilgrimage: Route around Shikoku island, walked by John McBride.
  • Kumano Kodo: Network of pilgrimage trails on the Kii Peninsula, UNESCO World Heritage site. Includes specific trails: Kohechi, Nakahechi, Ohechi, Iseji, Omine Okugake Michi.
  • Camino de Santiago: Famous pilgrimage trail in Spain, sister trail to Kumano Kodo, UNESCO site. Walked by Craig.
  • Dewa Sanzan: Pilgrimage route involving three mountains in Yamagata.
  • Nakasendo: Major historical inland road connecting Edo (Tokyo) and Kyoto through the mountains. Walked extensively by Craig.
  • Hime Kaidō: “Princess Route,” a detour on the Tōkaidō.
  • Hagi Ōkan: Two-day walk connecting Yamaguchi City and Hagi City.
  • Wainwright Coast to Coast: Walk across Northern England from the Lake District.
  • Cotswold Way: Walk in England, done twice by Craig with Kevin Kelly’s groups.

Institutions, Organizations, Companies, Software, and Platforms

  • Tokyo Toilet: Public art/infrastructure project in Tokyo, possible inspiration for Perfect Days.
  • Monbukagakusho (MEXT): Japanese Ministry of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology; offered scholarships (John McBride was a recipient).
  • UNESCO: United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization. Designated Kumano Kodo and Camino de Santiago as World Heritage Pilgrimage trails.
  • (Japan Exchange and Teaching Program (JET): Program placing foreign nationals (often as English teachers) in Japan, usually outside major cities. Brad participated.
  • Sky TV: Satellite television network; John McBride was CEO in Japan.
  • SoftBank: Japanese multinational conglomerate; John McBride knew CEO Son-san.
  • Kickstarter: Crowdfunding platform used for Art Space Tokyo reprint.
  • Apple TV: Streaming platform airing the Silo adaptation.
  • Craig Mod Membership Program: Craig’s community funding his work, discussed extensively regarding its rules and philosophy.
  • Wired Magazine: Publication that published Craig’s essay.
  • Freedom (.to): Website blocking software used by Craig and Neil Strauss.
  • Penguin Random House: Major publishing house that published Things Become Other Things.
  • Mack Press: UK-based photo book publisher mentioned for context on typical art book print runs.
  • Ancestry.com: DNA testing and genealogy company where Craig matched with his birth mother.
  • 23andMe: DNA testing company Craig initially used.
  • Instagram: Social media platform mentioned re: Teemus Photo.
  • Teemusphoto.com: Website recommended for nighttime Japan photography.
  • YouTube: Video platform.
  • Substack: Newsletter/publishing platform.
  • Memberful: Membership software platform.
  • Patreon: Membership/creator funding platform.
  • SMS Experiment Tool: Custom one-to-many SMS tool Craig built for his walk.
  • iOS Shortcuts / Siri: Apple features used by Craig for voice dictation while walking.
  • Shopify: E-commerce platform used by Craig for Craigstarter.
  • Craigstarter: Craig’s self-built Kickstarter clone.
  • Google Translate: Mentioned by Tim Ferriss as helpful for non-Japanese speakers.

Concepts

  • Six-Tatami-Mat Room: A small traditional Japanese room size, Craig lived in one for years. Used as a visual reference via Perfect Days.
  • Tatami Mat: Traditional Japanese flooring mat, used historically as a unit for room size.
  • Syncretism: The blending or coexistence of different religions/beliefs, specifically Shinto and Buddhism in Japan.
  • Meiji Restoration: Historical period (~1868 onward) marking the end of the Shogunate, restoration of imperial rule, modernization, and forced separation of Shinto and Buddhism.
  • Shukubo: The practice of staying overnight at a Buddhist temple.
  • Shogunate / Daimyo: Feudal military government / feudal lords in Japan.
  • Tea Ceremony (Chanoyu): Traditional Japanese cultural activity involving the preparation and presentation of matcha; practiced extensively by John McBride.
  • Keigo: Japanese polite language, involving different levels of respect and humility.
  • Gaijin Tarento: Foreign celebrities or personalities featured in Japanese media.
  • Craig’s Walking Rules: Craig’s personal rules for his long walks (no news/social media, cultivate boredom, don’t teleport/distract, say hello, arbitrary photo goals, pre-book logistics).
  • Vipassana Retreat: Silent meditation retreat focused on observing reality as it is; Craig attended a 10-day retreat.
  • Shugyo: Ascetic spiritual training, often involving physical hardship.
  • Yamabushi: Japanese mountain ascetics.
  • Bobbing Consciousness: Craig’s term for the feeling achieved after many days of walking long distances.
  • Sankin-kōtai: Edo-period policy requiring daimyo to spend alternate years in Edo, necessitating road infrastructure like the Nakasendo and Tōkaidō.
  • Shōshika Mondai: Societal issue of declining birthrates in Japan.
  • Kōreika Shakai: Societal issue of an aging population in Japan.
  • Kissaten: Traditional, often Showa-era, Japanese coffee shops/cafes.
  • Shōwa Era: Period of Japanese history from 1926-1989.
  • Pizza Toast: Simple dish often served in kissaten (toast with tomato sauce, cheese, etc.).
  • Napolitan Spaghetti: Simple pasta dish often served in kissaten (spaghetti with ketchup-based sauce).
  • Product-Market Fit (PMF): Business concept regarding a product satisfying market demand.
  • Jeffersonian Dinner: Dinner format with a single group conversation, used on the Walk & Talks.
  • Shinto: Indigenous Japanese religion/spirituality.
  • Buddhism: Religion practiced widely in Japan.
  • Konbini: Japanese convenience store.
  • Haiku: Japanese poetic form associated with Bashō.

SHOW NOTES

  • [00:00:00] Start.
  • [00:07:25] More than a decade of Perfect Days in a six-tatami mat room.
  • [00:10:44] The first steps of Craig’s huge walks: exploring Tokyo’s nightlife.
  • [00:17:33] Discovering pilgrimage trails with John McBride.
  • [00:22:49] What’s so appealing about pilgrimage trails?
  • [00:31:25] Learning politeness and language in Japan.
  • [00:40:09] An invitation from Kevin Kelly.
  • [00:41:23] The birth of a photo book.
  • [00:42:50] The big solo walks begin.
  • [00:43:53] Launching a membership program.
  • [00:44:58] The Nakasendō experience.
  • [00:50:01] Craig’s rules for walking.
  • [00:51:04] The Vipassana influence.
  • [01:00:43] Logistics of walking in Japan.
  • [01:09:03] Depopulation and pizza toast.
  • [01:13:42] How Kissa by Kissa came to be (and its unexpected success).
  • [01:16:34] Kicking off Craigstarter.
  • [01:17:47] The pièce de résistance membership strategy.
  • [01:18:41] Finding product-market fit.
  • [01:19:12] The importance of sustainable scale.
  • [01:19:50] Membership community rules.
  • [01:27:15] Navigating the publishing world.
  • [01:38:37] Promoting midsize cities in Japan as a wild and strange celebrity.
  • [01:52:50] The economic and cultural effects of this promotion.
  • [01:54:46] Hidden gems and walks in Japan.
  • [01:56:56] Walking beyond Japan.
  • [01:59:47] Craig was a Mod before you was a mod.
  • [02:00:47] How Craig reconnected with his birth family.
  • [02:19:32] Reflections and future plans.
  • [02:23:00] Parting thoughts.

MORE CRAIG MOD QUOTES FROM THE INTERVIEW

“I would finish every day on these walks, get in bed, and just feel that was the fullest possible way I could have experienced that day. Given the cards dealt to me of this day, there was no fuller version of this day.”
— Craig Mod

“I love my scale because it’s sustainable. It gives me total creative freedom.”
— Craig Mod

“If you spend 30 days doing that physical activity every day to that degree, your body changes. You become what I call a bobbing consciousness. By day 20, 25 on the road where you’re walking 20, 30, 40k, your legs are just so powerful.”
— Craig Mod

“One of the weirdest things about being a contemporary human is, first of all, we’re never bored because we always have this stupid Black Mirror slab in our pocket that’s always distracting us with some other dopamine hit.”
— Craig Mod

The post Craig Mod Returns — Epic Walks in Japan, The Art of Slowness, Digital Detox, Publishing “Impossible” Books, and Choosing Beauty Over Scale (#803) appeared first on The Blog of Author Tim Ferriss.

Craig Mod — 真实的日本,东京便宜的公寓,富有成效的副业,创意 retreat,购买未来的自由,以及被 Spirits 拥抱 (#802) || Craig Mod — The Real Japan, Cheap Apartments in Tokyo, Productive Side Quests, Creative Retreats, Buying Future Freedom, and Being Possessed by Spirits (#802)

2025-03-27 22:00:49


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克雷格·莫德:真实的日本,东京廉价公寓,富有成效的支线任务,创意休憩,购买未来的自由以及被灵魂附体

本文总结了蒂姆·费里斯秀(The Tim Ferriss Show)第802期对作家、摄影师和徒步旅行者克雷格·莫德的访谈。

莫德现居日本东京和镰仓,著有《事物变成其他事物》和《喫茶店之旅》等书,并撰写《Roden》和《Ridgeline》两份时事通讯。他曾为《纽约时报》、《大西洋月刊》、《连线》等杂志撰稿。他走遍日本数千英里,自2016年起与凯文·凯利合作在世界各地举办“行走与谈话”活动。

2023年,莫德在《纽约时报》上热情推荐日本盛冈市,促使该报将盛冈市评为2023年“最佳旅游地”第二名(仅次于伦敦),使莫德成为小有名气的名人。他接受了大约四五十家报纸和电视台的采访,试图向那些对盛冈市的美好习以为常以至于视而不见的人们解释这座城市的美好之处。这段媒体经历的高潮是他与日本著名电视明星79岁的田森一起在盛冈市进行了为期两天的徒步旅行。人们对田森的热情回应让莫德感觉像是在和约翰·列侬一起散步。莫德的名人时刻转瞬即逝,现在没有人再认出他了。

访谈中,莫德谈到了他在日本的经历,包括社会对人们的照顾,以及他在日本的生活和工作。他还分享了他克服困难,建立自信,以及在创作和生活中获得满足感的经验。访谈还涵盖了他对写作、旅行、设计和生活的思考。 最后,访谈还介绍了莫德的书籍、时事通讯以及其他相关资源。


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“Part of what was great about Japan was that as soon as I landed, I felt a few things. One was society was taking care of people. I was walking past so many people every day in the street who were so much better taken care of than where I came from.”

— Craig Mod

Craig Mod is a writer, photographer, and walker living in Tokyo and Kamakura, Japan. He is the author of Things Become Other Things and Kissa by Kissa. He also writes the newsletters Roden and Ridgeline and has contributed to The New York Times, The Atlantic, Wired, and more. 

He’s walked thousands of miles across Japan, and since 2016, he has been co-running “Walk and Talks” with Kevin Kelly in various places around the world: the Cotswolds, Northern Thailand, walking across Bali, Southern China, Japan, Spain (Portuguese and French Caminos), and more. He’s a MacDowell fellow, Virginia Center for Creative Arts fellow, and Ragdale fellow.

In 2023 he wrote an impassioned recommendation of Morioka, Japan, to The New York Times, prompting the paper to rank the city number two (behind London) for “Places to Visit in 2023,” turning Mod into a minor celebrity. He sat for interviews with some forty or fifty newspapers and TV shows, trying to explain the goodness of a city like Morioka to people for whom the goodness is so self-evident that it has become invisible. This whole media dance culminated in his going on a two-­day walk around Morioka with one of Japan’s biggest TV stars: the seventy-­nine-­year-old, sunglasses-­wearing Tamori -­san, who was lovely (and very tiny!). The response—a total heartfelt reverence for the avuncular Tamori—from people on the street (“Good morning, Tamori -­san!,” yelled construction workers from atop their scaffolding) made Mod feel like he was walking with John Lennon. Mod’s moment of celebrity was mercifully short-lived. Nobody recognizes him anymore when he walks around town.

Please enjoy!

Listen to the episode on Apple PodcastsSpotifyOvercastPodcast AddictPocket CastsCastboxYouTube MusicAmazon MusicAudible, or on your favorite podcast platform. The transcript of this episode can be found here. Transcripts of all episodes can be found here.

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Craig Mod — The Real Japan, Cheap Apartments in Tokyo, Productive Side Quests, Creative Retreats, Buying Future Freedom, and Being Possessed by Spirits

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What was your favorite quote or lesson from this episode? Please let me know in the comments.

SELECTED LINKS FROM THE EPISODE

  • Connect with Craig Mod:

Website | Bluesky | Instagram | Roden (Monthly Newsletter) | Ridgeline (Weekly Newsletter)

Books and Written Works

People

Movies and TV Shows

Institutions, Organizations, and Companies

Concepts and Technologies

Places

Relevant Resources

SHOW NOTES

  • [00:00:00] Start.
  • [00:06:49] What would make this a worthwhile conversation?
  • [00:09:14] How Craig and I first met.
  • [00:11:06] Growing up in a post-industrial Connecticut town.
  • [00:13:10] The kindness of a tech-savvy stranger.
  • [00:14:02] IRC, ANSI art scene, and making connections in the Internet’s early days.
  • [00:15:48] From adoption to exploring hometown escape options.
  • [00:18:28] Driving cross-country to a Silicon Valley internship.
  • [00:20:05] Pursuing the desire to live abroad.
  • [00:22:14] Attending Waseda University in Japan at age 19.
  • [00:23:34] Seduced by the Ivy League: A momentary return to the States for a UPenn education.
  • [00:24:52] Craig’s advice for adults who want to pick up the Japanese language.
  • [00:29:04] Bizarre homestay experiences.
  • [00:41:04] How Craig wound up back in Japan to work in publishing.
  • [00:42:55] Developing design sensibilities at UPenn with Sharka Hyland and Joshua Mosley.
  • [00:47:30] Craig’s color blindness and its influence on his design aesthetic.
  • [00:49:54] Without a time machine, Craig lives vicariously through his daughter’s opportunities.
  • [00:51:36] Struggling with spirits of sauce and the supernatural .
  • [00:56:02] A Tibetan dream reader and lost love.
  • [00:59:53] Craig’s journey to self-worth: Running, charging more for work, and building confidence.
  • [01:01:51] The transformative experience of climbing to Annapurna Base Camp in Nepal.
  • [01:04:40] Writing a camera review that went viral and paid rent for two years.
  • [01:10:33] The article that changed Craig’s life.
  • [01:16:39] The enduring power of physical books in the digital age.
  • [01:21:06] How being adopted prepared Craig for life as an outsider no matter where he hangs his hat.
  • [01:25:25] Craig’s time at Flipboard.
  • [01:29:24] Writing in hotel rooms on weekends.
  • [01:30:14] Meeting Kevin Kelly and landing a MacDowell writing residency.
  • [01:32:51] Bridges burned and discoveries made at MacDowell.
  • [01:40:16] Justifying a round two.
  • [01:41:17] Craig’s advice for aspiring creatives.
  • [01:45:12] Books Craig has reread multiple times.
  • [01:49:43] The story behind Craig’s new book, Things Become Other Things.
  • [02:01:47] Craig’s Special Projects membership program.
  • [02:04:08] In praise of unexpected corners.
  • [02:06:25] Lessons learned from the Sally Mann documentary.
  • [02:07:34] Parting thoughts and a preview of round two (coming later this week).

MORE CRAIG MOD QUOTES FROM THE INTERVIEW

“As an adopted person, I think my entire life is defined by that flailing. You just don’t feel like you belong anywhere.”
— Craig Mod

“In general, language learning is easier if you have a musical background. And I grew up all through my teens obsessively playing drums, just drumming, drumming, drumming, playing jazz, playing classical, playing in big band orchestras, playing everything.”
— Craig Mod

“Part of what was great about Japan was that as soon as I landed, I felt a few things. One was society was taking care of people. I was walking past so many people every day in the street who were so much better taken care of than where I came from.”
— Craig Mod

“The amount of scarcity I felt as an adult in my twenties is just shocking. It was this fathomless sense of scarcity, like the money’s not going to be there, the love isn’t going to be there, the support isn’t going to be there. And then when I lost her, I was like, I’m never going to have anyone who will ever love me like this person loved me, and I’m never going to be able to create like I created with this person. And I had to start proving to myself that that wasn’t true.”
— Craig Mod

“There’s a huge safety of being in a place that can never throw you away because you’re never going to be part of the thing.”
— Craig Mod

“It is just undeniable that a fullness of life that I find is found through the writing and who that connects me with and the adventures it brings me on.”
— Craig Mod

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埃文·威廉姆斯——转型的艺术(例如从Odeo到Twitter),战略性退出,过早扩展的危险,必读书籍,以及其他内容(第800期) || Ev Williams — The Art of Pivoting (e.g., Odeo to Twitter), Strategic Quitting, The Dangers of Premature Scaling, Must-Read Books, and More (#800)

2025-03-20 21:37:44


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Ev Williams访谈总结

这篇访谈记录了Tim Ferriss与Ev Williams(Blogger、Medium和Twitter联合创始人)的对话。访谈涵盖了Ev Williams的职业生涯、对科技行业的见解以及他最新的社交网络项目Mozi。

核心观点:

  • 创造力并非计划产物: Williams认为,像发明电脑或Twitter这样的创造性工作无法预先规划,过多的计划反而会限制可能性。他将创造过程比作写作或绘画,需要在过程中不断探索和调整。

  • 战略性放弃的重要性: Williams强调了“战略性放弃”的重要性,认为及时放弃不合适的项目或方向,才能腾出精力去追求更有价值的机会。

  • Mozi的理念: Mozi旨在回归线下社交,重新定义“社交”的含义,强调真实的人际连接而非单纯的线上互动。

  • 个人成长与反思: Williams分享了他通过Hoffman Process等方式管理情绪、提升自我认知的经验。

其他内容:

访谈还涉及了Twitter的起源、Medium的经验教训、对人工智能时代的思考,以及Williams推荐的书籍等。 访谈中穿插了对赞助商David Protein Bars、Sundays for Dogs和Wealthfront的介绍。 最后列出了访谈中提到的书籍、公司、人物和概念等详细信息。

总而言之,这是一次关于创造力、创业、个人成长和科技未来发展富有洞见的访谈。Williams分享了他宝贵的经验和独特的视角,为听众提供了许多值得思考的内容。


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“You can set a goal to run a marathon, and you can download a training regime, and you can go run the marathon. You can’t do that to invent the computer or Twitter or create amazing art. You can’t plot it. And to the extent you try to plot it, you shoot yourself in the foot because you cut off the possibilities that lie before you.”

— Ev Williams

Ev Williams (@ev) is the co-founder and chairman of Mozi, a new social network that helps you connect in person with the people you care about. Over the past 25 years, Ev has co-founded several companies that have helped shape the modern internet—including Blogger, Medium, and Twitter. Ev is also the co-founder of Obvious Ventures, an investment firm that focuses on world-positive companies addressing major systemic problems. Ev grew up on a farm in Clarks, Nebraska, has two sons, and lives mostly in the Bay Area.

This episode was recorded live at Diggnation (diggnation.show), where digg.com was relaunched. Digg was recently acquired by its original founder, my friend Kevin Rose, and reddit co-founder Alexis Ohanian, and they invited me along for all the fun and surprises as they celebrated the relaunch. Go to digg.com and sign up to get early access when invites go out.

Please enjoy!

Listen to the episode on Apple PodcastsSpotifyOvercastPodcast AddictPocket CastsCastboxYouTube MusicAmazon MusicAudible, or on your favorite podcast platform. The transcript of this episode can be found here. Transcripts of all episodes can be found here.

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Ev Williams — The Art of Pivoting (e.g., Odeo to Twitter), Strategic Quitting, The Dangers of Premature Scaling, Must-Read Books, and More

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Want to hear another fun live recording from Austin, TX? Check out my conversation with Kevin Rose:


What was your favorite quote or lesson from this episode? Please let me know in the comments.

SELECTED LINKS FROM THE EPISODE

  • Connect with Ev Williams:

Obvious Ventures | Twitter | Medium | Instagram | Threads | LinkedIn

The transcript of this episode can be found here. Transcripts of all episodes can be found here.

Concepts

Companies & Institutions

Technologies

Books

Movies & Shows

Events & Venues

People

Relevant Resources

SHOW NOTES

  • [00:05:35] Kevin Rose starts the party like it’s 2004.
  • [00:07:27] Ev’s first internet product.
  • [00:08:54] How technology became social for Ev.
  • [00:10:52] The simple idea behind Mozi.
  • [00:12:05] Strategic quitting vs. sunk-cost perseverance.
  • [00:18:36] How Odeo begat Twitter.
  • [00:22:01] Twitter’s $11,000 SXSW 2007 inflection point.
  • [00:23:45] Ev’s hopes for Mozi’s evolution.
  • [00:25:02] Favorite books and information inputs.
  • [00:30:45] Raising a generation to co-exist with AI.
  • [00:33:12] Ev’s billboard.
  • [00:35:56] How Ev learned to manage his feelings.
  • [00:37:16] Facing strangers as an introvert with the Hoffman Process.
  • [00:39:57] Recently adopted habits that have galvanized positive change.
  • [00:42:44] The silver lining of being fired from Twitter.
  • [00:45:18] Contemplating how the universe works with The One by Heinrich Päs.
  • [00:47:04] How Ev stocks his reading list arsenal.
  • [00:50:26] Big thoughts on a Medium regret.
  • [00:52:47] Resisting the urge to bloat Mozi with superfluous features.
  • [00:55:40] How Mozi balances privacy with utility.
  • [00:57:40] Parting thoughts.

MORE EV WILLIAMS QUOTES FROM THE INTERVIEW

“You can set a goal to run a marathon, and you can download a training regime, and you can go run the marathon. You can’t do that to invent the computer or Twitter or create amazing art. You can’t plot it. And to the extent you try to plot it, you shoot yourself in the foot because you cut off the possibilities that lie before you.”
— Ev Williams

“The most creative force in the world is clearly nature, and it has no plan. It just tries shit.”
— Ev Williams

“I saw companies—in particular, products—as a creative process. It’s like writing a book or painting a painting: you have to figure it out as you go. You don’t have it fully baked in your head from day one.”
— Ev Williams

“Remember when social used to mean getting together in real life, getting to know people? And now social is just this catchall word that kind of just means the internet.”
— Ev Williams

“I think humans, fundamentally, were wired to be deeply social, but that wiring was way before screens. And that wiring to be social, it didn’t happen in public. So Mozi is a very simple idea where we said, ‘Well, what would an actual social network look like?’ That’s what we’re building.”
— Ev Williams

“I think this idea of it’s okay to quit is underappreciated.”
— Ev Williams

“You don’t know what else there is until you clear your attention away from the thing that you’ve been struggling with.”
— Ev Williams

“Creative ideation is useful no matter what you do, ever.”
— Ev Williams

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理查德-泰勒和格雷格-布罗德莫,Wētā 工作坊--挖掘创造力、《指环王》中的故事、新西兰的魔力、生活的四个信条和你需要的唯一一句自助语 (#799) || Richard Taylor and Greg Broadmore, Wētā Workshop — Untapping Creativity, Stories from The Lord of the Rings, The Magic of New Zealand, Four Tenets to Live By, and The Only Sentence of Self-Help You Need (#799)

2025-03-13 22:10:28


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维塔工作室的理查德·泰勒和格雷格·布罗德莫尔:激发创造力

这篇博文总结了蒂姆·费里斯秀(The Tim Ferriss Show)第799期对维塔工作室(Weta Workshop)联合创始人理查德·泰勒和艺术家格雷格·布罗德莫尔的访谈。

核心内容:

  • 泰勒强调培养下一代创造者至关重要。 他认为动手制作和创造的能力正在流失,因此培养孩子们的创造力刻不容缓。他分享了自己成功的四个准则:热爱自己、热爱工作、热爱与谁共事以及热爱为谁工作。

  • 布罗德莫尔认为艺术的本质在于寻找真理,而不仅仅是绘画和讲故事。 他描述了自己的创作过程,强调在不确定方向的情况下勇于尝试的重要性。

  • 访谈涵盖了维塔工作室的成功历程,包括参与《指环王》等众多知名电影的特效制作。 两位嘉宾分享了他们在工作中的经验、挑战以及对艺术和创造力的独特见解。布罗德莫尔还介绍了自己的新作品——以史前时代为背景的图画小说系列《One Path》。

  • 访谈还涉及到两位嘉宾的个人经历、创作理念以及对艺术和人生的思考。 例如,泰勒早期使用人造黄油进行雕塑的经历,以及布罗德莫尔对艺术方向选择的哲学思考。

其他信息:

博文还包含了对访谈中提及的电影、书籍、人物以及维塔工作室相关信息的详细列表,以及对赞助商产品的介绍。


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“The thing we love to make today is other makers. We’ve had a lovely and amazing career, and we are continuing to do fun and wonderful things every day. But it’s an imperative, and I actually feel that it’s beholden on us to try and introduce as many people as possible, specifically children, into the love of making and creating because it is slipping out of our fingers.”
— Richard Taylor


“What is art about? It is more than just drawing pictures and making stories — it is finding truth.”
— Greg Broadmore

Richard Taylor is the co-founder and creative lead at Wētā Workshop, which he runs with his wife and co-founder Tania Rodger. Wētā Workshop is a concept design studio and manufacturing facility that services the world’s creative and entertainment industries. Their practical and special effects have helped define the visual identities of some of the most recognizable franchises in film and television, including The Lord of the Rings, Planet of the ApesSupermanMad MaxThorM3gan, and Love, Death, and Robots.

Greg Broadmore is an artist and writer who has been part of the team at Wētā Workshop for more than 20 years. His design and special-effects credits include District 9King KongGodzillaThe Adventures of Tintin, and Avatar, and he is the creator of the satirical, retro-sci-fi world of Dr. Grordbort’s. He is currently working on the graphic novel series One Path, set in a brutal prehistoric world where dinosaurs and cavewomen are locked in a grim battle for supremacy.

Please enjoy!

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Want to hear another podcast episode with a prolific artist? Listen to my first conversation with Todd McFarlane, in which we discussed the art of compelling storytelling, meeting deadlines, Todd’s voluminous library of rejection letters, how the industry status quo led to the founding of Image Comic Books, the happy accident that brought Venom to life, spaghetti webbing, competitive bladdering, and much more.


What was your favorite quote or lesson from this episode? Please let me know in the comments.

SELECTED LINKS FROM THE EPISODE

  • Connect with Richard Taylor:

Website | Twitter | Facebook | Instagram | YouTube

  • Connect with Greg Broadmore:

Website | Newsletter | Twitter | Facebook | Instagram

Richard Taylor’s Four Tenets

  1. Love of oneself.
  2. Love of what you do.
  3. Love of who you do it with.
  4. Love of who you do it for.
  5. (Unofficial bonus tenet) Don’t be a dickhead.

Institutions, Companies, and Places

Movies and Entertainment Media

Books and Recommended Reading

Relevant Resources

People

SHOW NOTES

  • [00:08:51] Albertosaurus vs. bear.
  • [00:10:10] The Richard Taylor office tour.
  • [00:12:27] How Richard was inspired to begin sculpting.
  • [00:15:42] Being influenced by — and meeting — stop-motion legend Ray Harryhausen.
  • [00:18:08] Connecting with Dick Smith, the ‘grandfather’ of makeup effects.
  • [00:19:17] Sculpting in margarine and breaking into the industry.
  • [00:23:57] Tinfoil sculpting and teaching creativity to kids.
  • [00:28:00] Wētā’s evolution from a small team to a 400-person creative hub.
  • [00:35:57] 99 Dodgy Slips and 99 Deadly Sleds.
  • [00:41:43] Greg’s artistic education and unique process.
  • [00:46:11] The art must flow! But how does Greg make it happen?
  • [00:47:54] The Auckland mural: when flow goes too far and Lemmy has to be replaced.
  • [00:48:42] How Greg boarded the Wētā Workshop train after years on the dole.
  • [00:51:59] The David Deutsch influence: curiosity, fun, and learning.
  • [00:53:05] Philosophizing around art and creative problem-solving.
  • [00:54:45] How Wētā’s Gallipoli exhibition makes WWI relevant to modern museumgoers.
  • [00:59:04] The challenges of clothing giants and hitting deadlines.
  • [01:03:33] How Wētā attacked the massive scale of the Lord of the Rings project with a can-do attitude.
  • [01:11:23] Richard’s four tenets (plus one bonus tenet).
  • [01:13:39] The unique advantages of operating in New Zealand.
  • [01:16:42] The unwavering self-belief of Peter Jackson’s leadership style.
  • [01:20:10] Richard’s advice for anyone seeking to cultivate their own creativity.
  • [01:23:03] Artistic immortality: leaving a creative legacy.
  • [01:24:13] Greg explains the retro sci-fi angle behind his Dr. Grordbort’s and ray gun projects.
  • [01:28:55] The metaphysics of creative direction.
  • [01:36:09] How Greg’s new book, One Path, came about.
  • [01:40:02] Tools Greg used for conceptualizing One Path.
  • [01:41:55] Where the curious can see more of Greg’s work.
  • [01:43:18] How many destinations does Greg imagine One Path will reach?
  • [01:45:02] Why working on District 9 was often frustrating, but ultimately rewarding.
  • [01:50:39] How can an artist maintain a healthy detachment from their own work?
  • [01:57:35] Greg’s inspirations.
  • [02:06:20] What’s Bill Watterson (Calvin and Hobbes) up to these days?
  • [02:08:53] What is art really about for Greg?
  • [02:10:10] How Aaron Stupple changed Greg’s life.
  • [02:13:13] Bestiaries, folios, and fondly remembered library books.
  • [02:15:39] Parting thoughts.

MORE QUOTES FROM THE INTERVIEW

“I have four very simple tenets that I operate by and four tenets that I try and operate our company by. … Love of oneself, love of what you do, love of who you do it with, and love of who you do it for.”
— Richard Taylor

“The first 300 commercial sculptures I did in the film industry were sculpted in margarine.”
— Richard Taylor

“If you think about who are the true immortals in the world, they’re teachers and parents, people that pass information to others to carry on into the next generation. But I do think about artists and craftspeople as being creatively immortal.”
— Richard Taylor

“The thing we love to make today is other makers. We’ve had a lovely and amazing career, and we are continuing to do fun and wonderful things every day. But it’s an imperative, and I actually feel that it’s beholden on us to try and introduce as many people as possible, specifically children, into the love of making and creating because it is slipping out of our fingers.”
— Richard Taylor

“Grit is an important component in the journey, not the accolades at the end. It’s the task of getting there that is seen as equal in accomplishment as winning baubles.”
— Richard Taylor

“I realized you need to care about the work deeply. It is your baby. You have to care about it. And if you don’t care about it, the work won’t be any good. So you cannot become cynical to the work, you have to love it, and you have to be able to let go of it.”
— Greg Broadmore

“I love learning by doing. It’s the only way. The act of illustrating or being creative, in general, I find most interesting when you don’t actually know where you’re going exactly, and you don’t really know how to do it. You just throw yourself into it and do your best, and I love that process.”
— Greg Broadmore

“Why choose any creative direction? This is a whole big metaphysical thing. There’s actually, I think, two distinct directions in which people create stories and narratives and worlds. One way is directed where you know where you’re going to go, you know the ending. The other way, which I’ve discovered I do, more often than not, is I’m just chasing these ‘why?’ questions.”
— Greg Broadmore

“What is art about? It is more than just drawing pictures and making stories — it is finding truth.”
— Greg Broadmore

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特里·雷尔 – 突破传统夫妻疗法的规则以获得更优结果,几种有效框架 (#798) || Terry Real – Breaking the Rules of Traditional Couples Therapy for Superior Results, A Few Frameworks That Work (#798)

2025-03-06 22:50:00


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本期播客与众不同,节选自Terry Real的音频书《Fierce Intimacy》的五个章节。内容将帮助听众识别自己和伴侣在关系中失败的策略,并从不和谐走向修复。Terry Real是关系生活疗法(RLT)的创始人,他的书籍、课程和教学都基于此疗法,帮助人们掌握强大的关系技巧,让爱情长久。他还著有五本书,包括《纽约时报》畅销书《我们:超越你我,建立更爱的关系》。

播客还推荐了Henry Shukman的冥想App“The Way”,声称能有效降低焦虑。

本期播客涵盖了关系和谐、不和谐和修复的节奏;五种导致关系修复失败的策略(追求正确、试图控制伴侣、肆无忌惮的自我表达、报复、逃避);以及如何通过了解自己和伴侣的失败策略模式来学习。

最后,播客提供了与Terry Real相关的网站、书籍和视频链接,以及其他相关资源链接。


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For this episode, I’m doing something a bit different. I’m featuring five chapters from the audiobook Fierce Intimacy by Terry Real. What you will hear in this episode will help you identify both your and your partner’s losing strategies in relationships and help you move from disharmony to repair. Terry is the creator of Relational Life Therapy, or RLT, which underpins all his books, courses, and teachings and equips people with the powerful relational skills they need to make love work. He is also the author of five books, including the New York Times bestseller Us: Getting Past You and Me to Build a More Loving Relationship. 

And if you’d like an extra dose of calm, I recommend checking out Henry Shukman, a past podcast guest and one of only a few dozen masters in the world authorized to teach Sanbo Zen. Henry’s app, The Way, has changed my life. I’ve been using it daily, often twice a day, and it’s lowered my anxiety more than I thought possible. For 30 free sessions, just visit thewayapp.com/tim. No credit card required.

Excerpted from Fierce Intimacy: Standing Up to One Another with LOVE by Terry Real (Sounds True, 2018). Used with permission.

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Terry Real - Breaking the Rules of Traditional Couples Therapy for Superior Results, A Few Frameworks That Work

Want to hear another podcast episode that deals with overcoming relationship obstacles? Listen to my conversation with psychotherapist and New York Times bestselling author Esther Perel, in which we discussed the challenges of therapizing couples in pandemic quarantine, the rewards of reframing our self-image, maintaining connection in long-distance relationships, coping with loneliness, the importance of maintaining personal rituals during trying times, and much more.


What was your favorite quote or lesson from this episode? Please let me know in the comments.

SELECTED LINKS FROM THE EPISODE

  • Connect with Terry Real:

Website

SHOW NOTES

  • [00:03:11] Harmony, disharmony, and repair: The rhythm of all intimate human relationships.
  • [00:06:27] Harmony: Love without knowledge.
  • [00:07:01] Disharmony: Knowledge without love.
  • [00:10:01] Repair: Knowing love.
  • [00:10:35] Stay or go? A relational reckoning.
  • [00:12:04] Five losing strategies for getting from disharmony to repair.
  • [00:13:21] Being right: Objective reality has no place in personal relationships.
  • [00:16:35] Trying to control your partner: No one likes being controlled.
  • [00:21:35] Unbridled self-expression: The barf bag approach to intimacy.
  • [00:27:33] Retaliation: Offending from the victim position.
  • [00:32:13] Withdrawal: Provacative distance-taking.
  • [00:35:58] Shaking hands with your adaptive child — your losing strategy profile (LSP).
  • [00:38:08] Lessons learned by comparing your partner’s LSP with your own.

PEOPLE MENTIONED

Pia Mellody
Kevin Rose
Peter Attia
Henry Shukman
Edward Tronick
Sigmund Freud
Ethel Person
James Framo
Belinda Berman-Real
Mahatma Gandhi

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加州大学戴维斯分校 Keith Baar 博士 - 可以修复肌腱(网球肘等)的简单运动、胶原蛋白的事实与虚构、等长运动与偏心运动、JAK 抑制剂、生长激素与 IGF-1、抗 RICE 协议以及如何使用负载作为消炎剂 (#797) || Dr. Keith Baar, UC Davis — Simple Exercises That Can Repair Tendons (Tennis Elbow, etc.), Collagen Fact vs. Fiction, Isometrics vs. Eccentrics, JAK Inhibitors, Growth Hormone vs. IGF-1, The Anti-RICE Protocol, and How to Use Load as an Anti-Inflammatory (#797)

2025-02-27 00:20:39


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加州大学戴维斯分校Keith Baar博士访谈总结

这篇访谈记录了Tim Ferriss与加州大学戴维斯分校生理学和膜生物学系教授Keith Baar博士的对话。访谈主要围绕肌腱健康、损伤修复以及相关训练方法展开。

Baar博士的研究领域包括:

  • 肌肉生长与适应: 他博士期间的研究揭示了机械应力对肌肉纤维的影响,以及mTOR信号通路在肌肉肥大中的作用。在John Holloszy博士(现代运动生物化学之父)的指导下,他还研究了骨骼肌对耐力训练的分子动力学适应。
  • 肌腱韧带工程: Baar博士的研究扩展到肌腱健康和韧带工程的潜力,这对于损伤治疗和恢复具有重要意义。
  • 功能分子生物学: 目前,他在加州大学戴维斯分校领导功能分子生物学实验室,研究范围涵盖细胞分子变化以及如何改善人们的健康、寿命和生活质量。

访谈核心内容:

  • 肌腱损伤修复: Baar博士批判了传统的RICE疗法(休息、冰敷、加压、抬高),强调了负重训练在肌腱修复中的重要性,特别是等长收缩训练。他详细解释了等长收缩(屈服式和克服式)以及偏心收缩在肌腱修复中的作用,并建议根据损伤程度调整等长收缩保持时间(10-30秒)。
  • 胶原蛋白合成与补充: 讨论了胶原蛋白补充剂、维生素C以及其他营养物质在促进胶原蛋白合成中的作用和最佳摄入时间。
  • 其他治疗方法的评价: 对PRP、自体干细胞等生物疗法以及JAK抑制剂等药物的有效性进行了评价,并指出某些药物(如氟喹诺酮类抗生素、AT-1受体拮抗剂)会增加肌腱断裂的风险。
  • 激素与肌腱健康: 探讨了雌激素和睾酮对肌腱的影响,以及它们在男女肌腱损伤风险中的差异。
  • 饮食与肌腱健康: 讨论了生酮饮食对线粒体生物发生和寿命的影响,并将其与低蛋白饮食和雷帕霉素进行了比较。
  • 炎症与适应: 解释了炎症在适应过程中的作用,以及何时需要减少炎症。

访谈还涉及其他主题,例如: mTOR通路、IGF-1、生长激素、最小有效剂量、耐力训练、恢复期、应力遮蔽等。 访谈中穿插了Baar博士对一些常见误区的纠正,以及他对于肌腱损伤治疗和恢复的实用建议。 最后,访谈还推荐了一些相关的研究论文和资源。


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Dr. Keith Baar is a professor at the University of California, Davis, in the Department of Physiology and Membrane Biology.

During his PhD studies, his research revealed that mechanical strain on muscle fibers activates the mammalian target of rapamycin (mTOR) signaling pathway, a crucial regulator of muscular hypertrophy. 

Subsequently, he studied the molecular dynamics of skeletal muscle adaptation to endurance training under the guidance of Dr. John Holloszy, a legend in the field of exercise physiology, considered the father of modern exercise biochemistry.

Building on all of this experience, he conducted research into tendon health and the potential for engineering ligaments, which could have implications for treatment and recovery from injuries.

Dr. Baar now runs the Functional Molecular Biology Lab at UC Davis. His lab’s work ranges from studying molecular changes in our cells to conducting studies to effect real-world improvements in people’s health, longevity, and quality of life.

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Want to hear another episode that explores the possibilities of rapamycin? Have a listen to the conversation I had with Peter Attia, David M. Sabatini, and Navdeep S. Chandel at the source of this miraculous compound: Easter Island. Here, we discuss how one of the most important discoveries of medical science was almost lost, why metabolism (along with longevity) research is key to treating a long list of diseases, intermittent dosing of rapamycin, parenting advice from scientists on confidence and conflict, the necessary failures of good science, good fonts versus bad fonts, “non-potato” relationships, and much more.


What was your favorite quote or lesson from this episode? Please let me know in the comments.

SELECTED LINKS FROM THE EPISODE

  • Connect with Dr. Keith Baar:

Website | Bluesky | LinkedIn

The transcript of this episode can be found here. Transcripts of all episodes can be found here.

Physiology & Biology
Strength Physiology

Molecular Biology

Exercise Physiology

Injury & Recovery

Training & Rehabilitation Methods

Substances & Interventions

Supplements

Pharmaceuticals

Orthobiologics (Critiqued)

Diets

Institutions & Places

Movies

Research

Relevant Resources

SHOW NOTES

  • [00:07:12] How I discovered Keith’s work through a tweet about tennis elbow and rock climbing.
  • [00:07:54] Emil Abrahamsson’s hangboard training protocol.
  • [00:09:20] The fundamental principles of strength training and connective tissue adaptation.
  • [00:10:36] mTOR complex 1 and its role in muscle growth.
  • [00:12:06] Engineered ligaments and the discovery of minimal effective doses for tendon adaptation.
  • [00:13:50] The refractory period between optimal tendon loading sessions.
  • [00:16:42] Rapamycin’s effects on muscle hypertrophy.
  • [00:18:49] Protocols for tennis elbow rehabilitation.
  • [00:20:28] Why isometrics work better than eccentrics for tendon healing.
  • [00:22:14] Stress shielding and how load distribution affects tendon healing.
  • [00:29:07] The misconception about eccentric loading for tendon injuries and why velocity matters.
  • [00:29:58] Ideal duration for isometric holds (10-30 seconds) based on injury status.
  • [00:33:50] My elbow issues and current rehab approach.
  • [00:36:02] Overcoming vs. yielding isometrics and optimal loading strategies.
  • [00:47:11] Dr. Barr’s movement prescription for my tennis elbow.
  • [00:52:18] Loading timing post-surgery and RICE protocol criticism.
  • [00:56:58] Achilles tendon rehabilitation after surgery.
  • [01:00:18] Critique of orthopedic suturing techniques and recommendation for resorbable sutures.
  • [01:04:02] Multiple position isometrics for tennis elbow rehabilitation.
  • [01:07:26] Collagen synthesis, supplementation, and vitamin C timing.
  • [01:12:59] Critique of BPC-157 and other injectable peptides for tendon healing.
  • [01:18:19] Evaluation of orthobiologics’ (PRP, prolotherapy, stem cells) effectiveness.
  • [01:21:37] JAK-STAT inhibitor drugs and their effects on tendon growth.
  • [01:25:35] Drugs that increase risk of tendon ruptures (fluoroquinolones, AT-1 receptor drugs).
  • [01:29:33] How estrogen affects tendon stiffness and injury risk in women.
  • [01:32:48] Testosterone’s opposite effects on tendon compared to estrogen.
  • [01:35:31] Protein intake recommendations and timing.
  • [01:40:11] Ketogenic diet effects on mitochondrial biogenesis and longevity.
  • [01:41:57] Comparison of ketogenic diet, low protein diet, and rapamycin for longevity.
  • [01:47:19] Inflammation’s role in adaptation and when to reduce it.
  • [01:51:17] Timing of ice baths relative to training for optimal recovery.
  • [01:52:33] Parting thoughts.

MORE DR. KEITH BAAR QUOTES FROM THE INTERVIEW

“The number one cost to the US medical system is actually musculoskeletal sprains, strains, and tears—the back and the neck as well as the rest of the body. It’s more than diabetes and heart disease combined.”
— Dr. Keith Baar

“If passive flexibility were really important for decreasing tendon injury, then the women’s gymnasts who have the most passive flexibility wouldn’t be the NCAA sport with the highest rate of Achilles tendon rupture.”
— Dr. Keith Baar

“Injury related to flexibility is a U-shaped curve. So our injuries are really high when we’re very inflexible. When we get into that sweet spot where we have good mobility, we can do the full range of motion, actually the injury rate is very low. If we become hyper-mobile, we actually have that injury rate go up as well.”
— Dr. Keith Baar

“We don’t use a ketogenic diet if we want to go fast, but if we’re training for life, we see that it increases longevity, that the ketones themselves are really good for brain function.”
— Dr. Keith Baar

“The first recorded immobilizer for an ankle or a leg is from Egyptian hieroglyphs, where they showed pictures 4,500 years ago. If I took you and you said you had cancer, you would not want a treatment that was developed 4,500 years ago. You would hope that something new had been developed in the last 4,500 years. That is where we are for our orthopedic situations.”
— Dr. Keith Baar

“The reality is that there are especially certain athletes like climbers where they’re doing all kinds of heavy lifts, they’re doing all kinds of heavy work, they’re doing all kinds of really dynamic moves. And what happens, what breaks down, is they break down in their finger tendons and they break down in the little pulleys within the tendons.”
— Dr. Keith Baar

PEOPLE MENTIONED

Vincent Van Gogh

Emil Abrahamsson

David Sabatini

Navdeep Chandel

Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson

Kozaburo Hayashi

Håkan Alfredson

Michael Kjær

Monika Lucia Bayer

Rod Whiteley

Natalie Gilmore

Timo Nyyssönen

Venus Williams

Luc van Loon

Stuart Phillips

Jon Ramsey

Valter Longo

Ron Maughan

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