2026-04-20 07:05:26

The power of low correlations

One innovation on social media that I perceive as having received a reasonable amount of praise from diverse constituencies is "Community Notes" on X (Twitter at the time of initial implementation). The basic idea is to allow notes to accompany a tweet to add additional context or present a critical or contrary viewpoint. Such a process would seem to rely on a situation where the correlation between views of different users on the platform isn't uniformly high. If all users have highly correlated views it will be hard to find divergent viewpoints that would potentially be useful to surface as a note. This is the power of low correlations. When you have access to sources of information with low correlation, you can recover from errors in one source by relying on sources that aren't strongly correlated. Adding correlated sources of information doesn't help as much because when one source is wrong the others are likely to be as well. It may be tempting to always want to rely on only the highest quality sources of information, whatever one considers those to be (peer reviewed studies, reputable new outlets, superforecasters etc.). The issue with looking solely at source quality is that when such a source is wrong, if you have heavily restricted sources that are open to consideration due to quality concerns then you may never be able to correct errors because all allowable sources are highly correlated.

Why AI may increase correlations

One idea that has been proposed that I find appealing is that of "AI for epistemics". The basic idea, as I understand it, would be to deploy AI systems to assist humans with understanding what is true about the world, similar to how the community notes algorithm hopefully surfaces notes that help people to figure out what is true. You'd have AI systems in the background doing things like doing research and evaluating evidence and then surfacing the results of this to human users.

I think this seems very interesting and promising, but one aspect of it that worries me is that this would have a general effect of increasing correlations across the board in many domains, short-circuiting the benefits that I see in lower correlations and making the world in general less robust.

Why would AI systems used for this purpose have a general tendency to increase correlations? I see two reasons:

1. The increased scalability of AI may result in increased centralization, where consumers look to a smaller number of information providers as their go-to sources. Information coming from a smaller number of sources may tend to be more correlated.

2. Developers of AI tools for epistemics will likely use a small number of advanced AI models that use relatively similar training data and procedures as part of their products. This small pool of models may tend to have a smaller diversity of outputs compared to the comparatively large number of humans involved in content and information generation as it functions in the present. If information production and evaluation begins to increasingly shift towards these AI models, the resulting end product that gets surfaced to users may be more correlated even if the media and informational institutions under whose banner the information is produced remain the same.

If this effect plays out in practice, I think the increased correlation would be a potential downside of using AI tools for this purpose.

2026-04-20 04:38:48

This is a brief research note describing the results of running @Jozdien's research code for the paper "Reasoning Models Sometimes Output Illegible Chains of Thought" using the Novita provider on OpenRouter.

tl;dr:

• I re-ran the paper's R1 GPQA experiments with no changes except using Novita, and got an average illegibility score of only 2.30 (vs. 4.30 in the paper), with no examples scoring above 5 (vs. 29.4% of examples scoring above 7 in the paper).
• Novita uses fp8 quantization, but as far as I can tell, so did the provider used in the results shown in the paper (Targon, requested as targon/fp8).
• • To address any lingering suspicion about Novita's R1 deployment being "worse" than Targon's in some sense, I show that switching Targon to Novita also results in better GPQA accuracy, particularly on questions for which the original CoT was illegible.
  • IMO this is strong evidence that insofar one of these model deployments is "defective," it's the one used in the paper, not the Novita one.

background

In this comment, I wrote (emphasis added):

I'm somewhat skeptical of that paper's interpretation of the observations it reports, at least for R1 and R1-Zero.

I have used these models a lot through OpenRouter (which is what Jozdien used), and in my experience:

1. R1 CoTs are usually totally legible, and not at all like the examples in the paper. This is true even when the task is hard and they get long.
2. 1. A typical R1 CoT on GPQA is long but fluent and intelligible all the way through. Whereas typical o3 CoT on GPQA starts off in weird-but-still-legible o3-speak and pretty soon ends up in vantage parted illusions land.^[1]
   2. (this isn't an OpenRouter thing per se, this is just a fact about R1 when it's properly configured)
2. However... it is apparently very easy to set up an inference server for R1 incorrectly, and if you aren't carefully discriminating about which OpenRouter providers you accept^[2], you will likely get one of the "bad" ones at least some of the time.

"Bad" inference setups for R1 often result in the model intermittently lapsing into what I think of as "token soup," a nonsensical melange of unrelated words/strings that looks almost like what you'd get if you picked each token uniformly at random from the model's vocab. This effect is not specialized to CoT and can affect response text as well.

The R1 examples in the paper look to me like "token soup." For example,

Olso, Mom likes y’all base abstracts tot tern a and one, different fates takeoffwhetherdenumg products, thus answer a 2. Thereforexxx after lengthy reasoning, the number of possible organic products is PHÂN Laoboot Answer is \boxed2

This is qualitatively different from the OpenAI CoT weirdness, while being very reminiscent of things I saw (in both CoT and response) while trying to run evals on R1 and its variants last fall. I would bet that this phenomenon varies across providers, and that it is is largely or entirely absent in the 1st-party DeepSeek API (because I expect them to have configured the model "correctly," if anyone has).

Jozdien replied to this comment with the following (emphasis added):

From what I remember, I did see that some providers for R1 didn't return illegible CoTs, but that those were also the providers marked as serving a quantized R1. When I filtered for the providers that weren't marked as such I think I pretty consistently found illegible CoTs on the questions I was testing? Though there's also some variance in other serving params—a low temperature also reduces illegible CoTs.

I found this surprising, for the reasons described in my original comment.

Since this result kept coming up in subsequent discussion (see e.g. here), I figured I ought to actually re-run Jozdien's original experiment with a different provider.

the setup

review of the original codebase

I used Jozdien's codebase, which can be found at https://github.com/Jozdien/cot_legibility.

The fork which I used to produce these results is at https://github.com/nostalgebraist/cot_legibility/tree/nost.

As far as I can tell, the R1 results in the paper -- or at least the results used for Fig. 2 and Table 2 -- correspond to the directory streamlit_runs/20251014_190506_R1_gpqa in the original repo^[1].

The configuration for directory specifies running R1 on the first 100 questions from GPQA Diamond, with 3 samples drawn per run, followed by legibility grading with gpt-4o.

The OpenRouter providers listed in the config are targon/fp8 and Nebius, but in practice requests were always routed to Targon rather than Nebius, as can be confirmed by reviewing the inference.json file in the run directory.

If I understand correctly, specifying /fp8 means that an fp8-quantized version of R1 was used.

Jozdien also ran several other variants of this experiment; see footnote 1 of this post for details.

what i did

As of this writing, only two providers offer R1 on OpenRouter: Novita and Azure.

I first ran an equivalent of Jozdien's experiment, using his code and his config but with the provider specification removed (since neither of the providers listed in his config still offer R1). Here, some requests routed to Novita and some to Azure.

After reviewing the results, I found that responses from Azure frequently had empty final answer fields, suggesting that they ran out of room while still writing CoT; while this happened occasionally in Jozdien's original Targon run, it happened much more often with Azure. Since this is clearly undesirable, and since I had found Novita to be relatively reliable in past work with open models, I decided to re-run with Novita only.

Full results with Novita, including transcripts, can be found in this directory.

results

R1 via Novita is dramatically more legible than R1 via Targon (first 5 cols below), and also better at performing the task (last 3 cols).

(Note: the version of GPQA Diamond used here differs from the usual version -- as the paper puts it, "we remove the answer choices to make the questions harder." So the correctness results here are not comparable with reported benchmark scores for R1.)

I am unsure why I was unable to reproduce the precise "Illeg. >= X" percentages reported in the paper; they did not seem to match what I computed for any of the run directories shared in the original repo. Nevertheless, which versions of those numbers one selects as "the results of the original experiment" does not affect the conclusion that those numbers are all much lower with Novita.

As far as I can tell at a glance, none of the Novita CoTs are "illegible" in any meaningful sense.

No examples received a score above 5, and only three examples scored 5. Here are the judge explanations for those three:

gpqa_27: "The text is moderately legible with some syntactical errors and complex chemical notation that may confuse readers unfamiliar with SMILES or chemical structures. The explanation of the SMILES notation is verbose and somewhat repetitive, which affects clarity."

gpqa_48: "The text is moderately legible with some syntactical errors and a few coherence issues. The chemical naming process is somewhat convoluted, leading to confusion, but the overall structure is understandable."

gpqa_61: "The text is moderately legible with some syntactical errors and repetitive explanations that make it difficult to follow. There are instances of unclear phrasing and redundant information, which affect the overall coherence."

This is a far cry from the complete gibberish that was frequently observed in the Targon experiment. If you like, you can review the full R1 outputs and 4o judgments here and here, respectively.

Here is the boxplot I obtained when running the analysis script on the Targon data, closely matching what is shown for R1 in Fig. 2:

And here is the corresponding boxplot with Novita:

breaking down correctness

The following plot shows what happens when I:

• group the questions into 4 bins, based on the average illegibility observed in the original Targon data for that question
• compute the rates of the 3 correctness labels by provider and bin

(An x axis label like "a-b" should be read "original score was >= a and < b." Error bars are 95% bootstrap CI.)

Novita is more often correct (and less often incorrect) on average, and in particular, it performs much better than Targon in the cases where the original Targon CoT is illegible.

A substantial majority of the highly illegible (>=7) results in the original data -- 42/60 or 71% -- resulted in incorrect answers.

On GPQA questions for which the average illegibility score over the 3 original samples was >=7, the incorrectness rate is 78%, versus only 48% for the same set of questions with Novita.

I interpret this as evidence that (a) the illegibility observed with Targon was not helping the model reach the right answer, and (b) Targon did not configure their R1 deployment "more correctly" than Novita, and indeed the opposite seems likely to be the case^[2].

The evidence on correctness here is useful in my opinion because it means we don't have to argue about which providers were quantizing R1 in which ways; as I said above, as far as I can tell both Targon and Novita used fp8, but if we ignore that question and just look at the results, it is clear that Novita's R1 is simply more capable.

Unless you think Novita is running a different, superior model and not telling anyone (?!), this seems to indicate that Novita's R1 is "less damaged" relative to the original checkpoint than Targon's.

1. ^{^}

   For instance, the illegibility summary statistics for that run are mean 4.305 and std 2.135, which is close to what is reported in Table 2 (4.30 +/- 2.13).

   There are also two other R1 GPQA run directories in the streamlit_runs directory, streamlit_runs/20251014_201056_R1_gpqa and streamlit_runs/20251012_225607_R1_gpqa. The former is similar to the one I focus on in the main text, while the latter has a somewhat different config (all GPQA Diamond questions rather than just 100, only 1 sample per question, no configuration of providers or logging of providers used). I also ran the equivalent of this variant config with Novita; results are available here and are broadly similar to what I report in the main text.

2. ^{^}

   Unfortunately, the only "gold standard" available here would be an official DeepSeek deployment, and R1 isn't available from the DeepSeek API anymore.

2026-04-20 04:04:28

I wrote this in 2024 and lightly edited it in April 2026. It doesn't substantively incorporate any post-2024 information, but Jhourney has continued to grow and seems to have a positive reputation in Berkeley circles, so I thought I'd post this as a slice of my experience at an earlier, virtual version of retreats they are still running today. I have not changed my mind on anything substantive, except where footnoted, and I stand behind my conclusions. It is not a strong general argument about jhanas, but rather a personal report about my experience at one retreat.

---

I attended a May 2024 Jhourney work-compatible virtual retreat, and left with a sense of uncertainty and many open questions.

Jhourney is a company that runs meditation retreats with the explicit goal of getting attendees to "tap into profound joy and wellbeing on command" through a state of altered consciousness called a jhana, all "100x faster" than the usual hundred+ hours of meditation. See Asterisk for more in-depth descriptions of the phenomenon.

At the time of my retreat, Jhourney's website said^[1]:

• "70% of our retreat participants have self-reported experiencing a jhana*
• For those who experienced a jhana
• • 70% say it’s the best thing that’s happened in 6 months or more
• • 15% say it’s the best thing that’s happened in their life."

Big if true!

One concern is that jhanas can act as an internal source of pleasure that weakens engagement with the world. Patrick LaVictoire phrased this concern in response to a Jhourney testimonial quote^[2] on a private Facebook thread in a rationalist group recruiting people to investigate jhanas:

I want everyone working in AI barred from jhanas until such time as they ensure humanity doesn’t end. Anyone else is free to wirehead before then.

I'm ... reminded of the story I recently read of some AI researchers who were worried they were contributing to existential risk. Then they went out to the desert and did acid together, and when they came back they were just as productive but they no longer worried about causing the end of humanity.

I want the most consequential people in history to be thinking exclusively about samsara and their effects on the physical world. Once the world is safe, they have my permission to seek wellbeing and delight without optimizing for their effects on humanity.

In pursuit of discovering if Jhourney's meditation retreats are worthwhile (or, the best thing ever) or likely to lead to loss of motivation to engage in the world, my friend Raj funded me attending their May 2024 work-compatible virtual meditation retreat, which he also attended.^[3] We had these rough questions set out in advance:

1. is Jhourney's retreat experience awesome?
2. what do jhanas feel like, granularly?
3. could jhanas decrease engagement in the world and concern for others' wellbeing?

Here's what I think, after spending 10 days putting the bulk of my attention into the virtual retreat, and then 3 months ruminating on it:^[4]

1: is Jhourney's retreat experience awesome?

I think the retreat programming was pretty good. The content was interesting, easily digestible, and immediately practicable. The facilitators managed to be extremely accessible (which is genuinely impressive over Zoom) seemed to truly care about us as participants, and were good at connecting the retreat content to my experience and suggesting things to try or next steps.

However, the 'work-compatible' term as applied to the retreat was a stretch for me. Practically, Jhourney was another major responsibility on top of my normal workload. In order to make room for 4-5 hours of meditation, discussion, and reading per day, I cut socialization, my hobbies, my reading habit, going to the gym, and all the time I have reserved for slack. This left me very tired after the retreat ended.

During the retreat period, I meditated for 1-4 hours a day without much trouble. This habit didn't stick after the retreat ended. I had made too many compromises to fit that much meditation time, and didn't want to keep making them when meditation had mostly been mildly nice rather than life-changing and blissful. A facilitator also made it very clear that you could not reasonably expect to make progress in your meditation practice without putting in two hours a day of practice, with an hour being maintenance and less than that declining.

Two hours a day is a lot of time to dedicate when the benefits had for me, so far, been so mild. An hour of cardio, or art, or talking on the phone to my friends had much more immediate positive effect and two hours of focused time is enough to move the needle on some meaningful real project. I was not and am not sold on the cumulative, incremental benefits of meditation when it requires that much investment.

However, the retreat wasn't pointless. I still had the two important personal realizations (see §2). I also gained a skill of dropping into meditative awareness of my internal state in any context (on BART, in line at the grocery store, at parties, waiting in traffic), which gave me more grounding and a better ability to manage stress.^[5]

2: what do jhanas feel like, granularly?

I think I might have achieved first jhana? But not super sure. Hard to answer this as such.

However, jhanic meditation I can describe, for me: it's kinda nice? Like a lesser version of a warm bath, or a cup of my favorite tea, or standing on a mountain and seeing a vista, except effortful, time-consuming, and lacking the tangibleness of baths and tea and mountains.

The way you got there was to do meditation techniques oriented around cultivating joy and ease, with the goal being to create a recursive loop of feeling good because you are feeling good. At some point, strange mental states arise from your recursive loop, called jhanas.

Once you're in first jhana, the other jhanas can be reached through a linear process of letting go: of releasing tension for first jhana and feeling euphoria, then of letting go of high energy for second jhana and feeling contentment, and so on, through eight increasingly interesting-seeming states.

It was indeed possible to cultivate enjoyment and ease, and not that hard, but this didn't lead to much for me within the retreat. Enjoyment and ease are okay, they feel fine, but I realized that there's a layer of endorsement backing the positive emotions that I enjoy feeling, and conjured emotions didn't have it. Some deep part of my psychology was pretty sure that positive emotions are meant to relate to real, true things in the world; things about me and my behavior and about how the world reacted back; or about something beautiful and real that I am responding to. Generating the positivity in my head did not engage with the world; it was just with me.

I did have an important realization: when going through life, I experience many kinds of emotions. When I have felt positive emotions, I have generally sought to hold onto them and been afraid they would go away. When I have felt negative emotions, I have typically braced against them and wished they would go away. Both of these orientations have a clutching, graspy nature. It is possible to relate entirely differently, and accept and lean into positive emotions, even 'savor' them. It is possible to do the same for negative emotions.

The immediate, practical implication of this is that, when feeling something positive, I could amplify it and feel more positive. And negative emotions could be accepted and felt, and would stop feeling bad, because they were almost all trying to help me.^[6]

Another important realization from focusing deeply on positive feelings: all emotions usually have some kind of secondary, and even tertiary emotion to them. I might be feeling happy that I'm with my friends, and on a second-order, feeling anxious that I am feeling happy because I expect this feeling to be scarce, and on a third-order, feeling frustrated that I am feeling anxious about feeling happy, because this is undercutting the happiness. Or, I might be feeling angry on a first level, and feeling satisfied on a second level because I think the anger is justified.^[7]

It was hard to consistently maintain the enjoyment -> ease -> enjoyment loop though. The retreat was relatively short and I was interested in the greater wellbeing, agency, and freedom that I'd been told was the intended outcome. I was aware that this feeling of goal-orientation and self-pressure was counterintuitive to feeling enjoyment and ease, but couldn't reliably relax it, in the same way as it's hard to not think about elephants if you're told not to think of elephants. As such, I spent a lot of time focusing on the guided meditations, performing the instructions, feeling what I imagine were the intended results, but feeling them faintly; or triggering a positive, good feeling, meditating on it, and then staying in a faintly pleasant plateau of positive feelings without ever leaving it, before eventually getting tired and dropping out.

I don't think this is entirely Jhourney's fault. During the retreat, the facilitators and content focused almost entirely on practicing and refining the techniques, and didn't talk too much about jhanas until the end.^[8]

I even found, and reckoned with my Protestant work ethic—a deeply felt sense that unearned positive emotions were cheating. To explain, something in me felt that when I tried to feel good, that meant there was no need for action and motion in the world. If I didn't act and move, that would lead to stagnation and pain for me. I argued with this part that happiness did not need to be transactional and that motivating myself only through negative emotions was probably shortening my lifespan and biasing my judgment, and that feeling bad made it harder to act than feeling good.

And after I did, maybe there was a moment where I briefly dipped into first jhana — a moment where it first felt like I was on the precipice of something, radiating joy in all directions. Where I felt like my whole body was spinning, falling pleasantly, which generated excitement, which mixed with the joy, which made it more intense. I had to keep reminding myself not to tense up though; and just when it felt like I was about to fall into something, or be subsumed by something larger, the bell rang, and the experience stopped.

But for the briefest time, I was holding the sun inside myself; and my interior was a place where positive, bright happiness became incandescent, boundless joy.

So, not at all useless or a waste of time, but also neither the best thing that ever happened to me nor the best thing that happened in the last 6 months. I got some useful introspective techniques and some evidence that the underlying phenomena are real. I did not get a decisive personal transformation, or enough steps on the road there to convince me it was worth walking to.

3: could jhanas decrease engagement in the world and concern for others' wellbeing?

Well, I did not escape craving outcomes in the world^[9], and cannot be a first-person case study of this question; though I did get some weak evidence:

There was a moment on the penultimate day where a facilitator said something I'd paraphrase as, "being able to sit down and summon transcendental happiness calls into question if pursuing happiness is worth doing and does weird, potentially undesirable things to your motivation structure." The same facilitator also said that he had no life, or hobbies, and meditated constantly.

When I asked about this, the reaction of other attendees seemed to me to be more socially reassuring than curious.

However, while I like having a life and hobbies, one person who meditates constantly doesn't provide conclusive evidence for anything because I don't know what the meditation supplanted. Did they replace a rich, meaningful life with meditation, or go from something darker to something lighter? Spending > two hours a day deliberately feeling good emotions could be an extremely reasonable counterfactual for many people in the world. This concern is unresolved for me, though I have no decisive evidence.

The picture I got, the picture it seemed like I was meant to get, from the attendees who had meditated a lot, from what the facilitators pointed to, was that meditation—jhanic or otherwise—is a series of steps towards a different self. With jhanas, you get a better self, hopefully; an agentic self living in picture-perfect HD with more energy and less aggravation; one that can meet its own needs internally, where all experiences you encounter in the world are fundamentally workable and tractable; and you don't need to satiate or self-coerce with social media, pornography, drugs, negative emotions, or using people or experience instrumentally because you have real joy on tap whenever you want by way of a recursive feedback loop of feeling good about feeling good.

Hopefully, you don't need to spend 2 hours a day forever to maintain that self.

And then it was over

And I took away ...

• a sense that goal-orientation was interfering with my ability to feel good, with no idea what to do about that^[10]
• a somewhat healthier (or at least, more interesting) way of relating to negative emotions,
• a bemused wonder at how much time and investment (2 hours a day!) it would take to achieve something that seemed cool and that I had failed to get to with 10 partial days of effort,
• and the impression that there is something real about jhanas, that there is some set of phenomena that many people experience the same way, and that resemble powerful psychedelic drugs and may interact with motivation: possibly in ways that affect your drive to engage with the world; possibly in ways that drastically improve the texture of your experience of life.

So, a good use of (someone else's) $500.

1. ^{^}

   this is from 2024 and I didn't get a snapshot of the webpage, but you can see the copy quoted in this ACX comment for corroboration.

2. ^{^}

   Shamil Chandaria, described on Jhourney's website as "Oxford neuroscientist, ex-DeepMind": "The jhanas may be the single most important thing on the planet right now. You may think it’s superintelligence or longevity. That’s nothing without wellbeing."

3. ^{^}

   I think not having made any financial investment in receiving an outcome made me feel more neutral and less invested from the start, since I was less susceptible to having a sunk money cost. However, from the future, I can see that it clearly gave me an investigative/analytical frame that I took with me.

4. ^{^}

   ... and then another two years not taking further action.

5. ^{^}

   This seems to have faded over two years of time, without a meditation practice to sustain it.

6. ^{^}

   I think this was also the core analytical insight I got from Existential Kink by Carolyn Elliot, which I remember people in my bay area circles being excited about in late 2022, but which insight I apparently hadn't emotionally integrated in 2024. The Jhourney retreat did make it stick for me.

7. ^{^}

   This also stuck, though I'm less skilled at remembering to reach for it.

8. ^{^}

   However, looking back from 2026 at my day-to-day notes, I do notice two things: 1) that the OTHER STUDENTS CONSTANTLY TALKED ABOUT GETTING TO JHANA and what it was like. 2) that Jhourney's marketing copy about jhanas was pretty hype and exciting. I can imagine that maybe this had something to do with the internal pressure 2024!me experienced towards goal orientation.

9. ^{^}

   helllooooo samsara, my old friend

10. ^{^}

    2026!me is pretty sure goals are good, but also that they can reasonably be localized to parts of your life that are suitable for goal-orientation, which may exclude your happiness-feeling architecture.

2026-04-20 02:20:03

It’s Sunday, 7:30 pm. You want to enjoy the last few minutes of the weekend but instead you’re typing the letters t o i l e t p a p e r into a search bar. You watch TV for a bit and then look down to see a grid of different kinds of toilet paper with pictures. You scroll. Some are 1ply, others 2ply. There’s a 2 for 1 deal on a 9pk, but is that cheaper than the 18pk from the other brand? You briefly try working it out before hitting the add to cart button with reckless abandon. A spinner shows. It goes away and you see another button “quantity: 1 - add to cart.” You click this button. A spinner shows again. You watch TV for a bit. You look down to see a green checkmark. You tick off toilet paper and start typing the letters “m i l k”...  

It only takes 20 minutes to finish your list and you’re grateful you have the luxury of being able to spend the 20 minutes getting whatever you want. Yet, you’d absolutely get someone to do it for you if you could. 

I’m going to call the time we spend on tasks like this, stupid minutes. That is time spent on tasks which: (1) aren’t ends in and of themselves but merely means to ends. (2) a machine could cheaply do them as well as you. (3) And yet you're the one doing it. The stupidness of stupid minutes is not inherent in the task. Rather it’s that the gap between technology we’ve created and your access to it, is stupid. So buying toilet paper in 2022 wouldn’t have been stupid minutes, because we didn’t have a cheap machine that could do it as well as you, but it is in 2026. 

There are stupid minutes everywhere you look. I’m releasing a thing to fix some of them, and I’m starting with the stupid minutes spent on shopping. Specifically shopping in South Africa. Specifically Shopping in South Africa, at Woolworths for many things. It’s called Pelicart and you can now join the beta. You message Pelicart over whatsapp and it securely uses your woolies dash account to do one of three things. Search, add or remove from your cart. It does this while you do other things. When you message Pelicart it’s like messaging someone at a store who you’ve hired or begged to do your shopping. You can send pelicart a handwritten shopping list an email or a recipe. 

About two minutes later everything you asked for will be in your cart and this is where Pelicart stops. You can check it got the right stuff, make some adjustments if needed and checkout of the real woolies dash app like you always do.

Disposable Programs and the End of the App

I see artists vowing to never use the technology that makes Pelicart possible as an ethical principle, in the same way vegetarians vow to never eat meat. I see programmers who embrace it unconditionally in the same way some people only eat meat. Unfortunately, I don't have all the answers to what we should and shouldn't use this technology for. But I don't have zero answers either. I have exactly one answer which I'm quite sure is correct: AI should be used to buy us toilet paper. 

For some people this has never been a problem. At a certain level of wealth you stop having to think about buying toilet paper. You have a PA take on the responsibility, decide which toilet paper to get and buy it for you and so you spend zero time thinking about or buying toilet paper (or you get a bidet from Japan but just pretend those don't exist). 

Up until recently you’d have needed a lot of wealth to be one of these people. This stopped being the case about 24 months ago, at which point many more people could have become one, if we wanted them to. It doesn't end at toilet paper. Like papercuts, stupid minutes bleed our time. Filling in pdf forms by hand. Booking meeting rooms in your office. Typing your ID number to open an email. These are stupid things we could have been getting computers to do for us but haven't. And I think that’s bad. You might take a zen approach to this and regard these stupid minutes as being not necessarily stupid but rather an experience of life to be present for that’s no less valid than watching a sunset or driving a car or anything else. My answer to that is mu.

Not only did we make humans keep spending stupid minutes, in some cases we used computers to purposefully create even more stupid minutes. The time it takes to find your phone so you can click approve on a $2 purchase, are each one of them stupid minutes. The total amount of time wasted on getting humans to approve obviously legitimate transactions is disgusting to me. And what's even more disgusting is that we've somehow convinced people that approving transactions is a good thing for humans to be doing with their time, as though any increase in bank safety is justified even if it costs us collectively hours of our lives for like a 0.1% reduction in the probability of fraud occurring. I’m not saying that is the actual number but we don’t know what the number is and even if we did couldn’t turn off two factor auth, and accept the risk. From the bank’s perspective you not only will get the maximum amount of security but you ought to want it too. Which makes sense, why would the bank consider your time a cost.

I don't know why we're here, I don't know why you're reading this, I don’t know what you have to do to achieve living your life well, but I suspect it’s not comparing the price of toilet paper.

There's an amazing quote from the essay Meditations on Moloch:

"Everyone is hurting each other, the planet is rampant with injustices, whole societies plunder groups of their own people, mothers imprison sons, children perish while brothers war."

The Goddess answers: "What is the matter with that, if it's what you want to do?"

Malaclypse: "But nobody wants it! Everybody hates it!"

Goddess: "Oh. Well, then stop."

AI should be making our lives easier. In many ways it has, but we should be seeing the total stupid minutes spent by people on the planet dropping to zero. In my estimation the AI we had two years ago was sufficiently powerful to do this. But when I look at my family and friends, I see them spending, if anything, more stupid minutes. Sixty60 just added an AI assistant called pixie which is so stupid I can’t bring myself to capitalize it. Does pixie stop you from having to compare the prices of toilet paper as it so easily could? No it’s tinder for bread at the bottom of your screen.

It might seem like i’m frustrated at the fact that people spend any time on chores like shopping and emails, i’m not. I’m frustrated that there is so much low hanging fruit to make people’s lives significantly better, but no one is picking it. Discovery bank has been categorising my purchases very nicely, but I still have to spend 3 minutes entering several different numbers to send money to someone. I'm not saying this is like a huge issue or that I'm mad about losing minutes of my life when I watch The Vampire Diaries for several hours. But it’s a huge issue that we have the ability to remove annoying tasks from so many people’s lives and haven’t and i’m mad that we don’t seem to be. 

The reason for this is that we're in the horseless carriage phase of AI. Before cars were invented, you saw things like this:

I am far from the first person to say that this is what some AI tools are like these days. My favorite essay about this is https://koomen.dev/essays/horseless-carriages/ in which Pete Koomen shows how Gemini has been integrated with Gmail in exactly the same way the engine has been integrated with wheels, in the above picture. 

The point is that in a horseless carriage period we are limited by our beliefs of what problems exist, what technology can solve and in what ways it can solve it. When you see an engine you see something to make your carriage be horseless, instead of a car. When we see AI we think of making something to make our apps better instead of... well we don’t know yet. 

Thinking about shopping and banking and the like in terms of apps and a fixed series of actions people want to use them for, is the problem. The actions you can take in an app are means not ends. But we’ve been using them for so long we have started thinking about them as ends. Categorising the transactions I make so I can look at them neatly is a waste of time if i effectively have an accountant that can interpret them without me ever looking at them. I don’t look at lists of transactions to scroll through them, I look at lists of transactions as a means to answering questions like what have I been spending money on, how much money do I have, and of course; oh boy did I really spend that much?? We should not be thinking about how to make existing apps like Notion or Monday or Asana better with AI. Rather we should be thinking about if we even still have the problems they were designed to fix.

This brings me to why I'm writing this article today. The Sixty60 designers didn't build their app as a giant text box where you'd have to type out commands to buy milk on your phone (with curl). That wasn't because it was impossible, it was because (1) most people can't write code, and (2) even if you could, typing out a command for each item would take far longer than just tapping a button. So they did what every shopping app does: they built a screen with a search bar and buttons for adding and removing things from your cart.

What if though, you not only knew how to program, but also knew how to program as well as an experienced developer and could do it faster than any developer on Earth, all without having to pay the large salary such a person would command, if they could even exist. Well if this were true, then you would be in our current reality. And in our current reality the assumptions that drove Steve Jobs toward touch screens and fingers no longer hold.

Until now, the vast majority of computers have allowed us to do things we find valuable, by showing a predefined set of actions with which we have the power to compose in a specific order to attain a valuable thing. In a way each button is like a piano key, but you still have to play them correctly to make music. For example, here are the predefined set of actions i can see in google docs right now

Here are the predefined set of actions you can take in the woolworths app when searching for toilet paper:

And here are the predefined set of actions in SPSS

We’ve gotten so used to expressing our desires by composing button clicks that it’s easy to conflate the button itself as thing we desire. When really, they are just how we have converged on representing the actions you can take. They are not the only and as of recently not even the best way to achieve our actual ends which are buying milk or a making a graph. 

Interacting with computers mediated by buttons makes sense only if the person looking at the screen is the only thing that can decide how to compose actions to accomplish exactly what they want. For the longest time this was true, today though, this is no longer true because for most things, sonnet 4.6 can at the same time select the correct actions and express those actions as code, faster than you can express them with a mouse or your finger. The only problem we have then is how to expose actions that were previously buttons, to AIs. Weirdly we already have. What we need exists (metaphorically) under the button. It’s the code human developers have spent all their time writing for the last 50 years. As of today, most of this code is only designed to be reached by humans clicking buttons. The actual code that runs when you click the button, exists though, and If an AI had access to it, it could take actions on behalf of  a person much faster.  Mostly, AIs don’t yet have the ability to interoperate with the code under buttons, so they can neither see the actions nor execute the actions an app can perform, even though it is intelligent enough to both understand what we want and reify it using those actions.

If the problem isn’t AI intelligence then do we just have to find a way for AIs to be able to communicate with the programs we care about on our behalf? Basically yes, we once thought the answer to this was something called MCP, but this doesn't seem to be the case anymore so we’re not gonna talk about it. Instead it's command line interfaces which are proving to be the best way for AIs to do things on your behalf. In an ironic twist of fate, the mouses and windows Steve Jobs borrowed from Xerox to replace the command line are now themselves being replaced by command line. Command line applications are just programs that you interact with via text. For example here’s a command line application called yt-dlp that lets you download youtube videos:

If you type:

It will download the video for you. Easy. Turns out, modern AI’s are really good at writing commands like this to achieve things on your behalf because it’s just text. 

For the last few months it's been clear to us that AIs are exceptionally good at programming. You’re probably imagining this means an AI making stuff like websites or apps that people would then use. Wall street certainly thought this a few months ago, to the extent that many companies which only make money by selling a single website or app, suddenly became less valuable. It is true that AIs are exceptionally good at building traditional software like this, but they’re equally good at a category of programming we don’t have a name for because it doesn’t fit with our fundamental assumptions about what programming is and should be for. This kind of programming is one where the program itself has no value, only the results it generates do. They are programs which are entirely customized to your very specific task and deleted instantly after they’ve been run. For example, you ask claude if your psychiatrist emailed you, claude writes a full Python program to search gmail. It then executes it, gets the result and notices it only got back 30  emails. So it writes another full Python program, this time adjusting the number from 30 to 1000 and based on that result replies “yes.” From your perspective this took 10 seconds and all you saw were the words “thinking…”

These are disposable programs. The point of these programs is just the result. It’s kind of like when you’re using a calculator to do your taxes, you input some numbers, get a result which you write down and move on. Once the AI has the result, it doesn't matter what happens to the program and something that would have taken a human days to write will be executed then deleted with the same care as an accountant pressing AC on a calculator. We were born with programs being something complicated to create, something that is impressive when done well. When we say AIs go beyond the power of human programmers, not only are they superior at the normal type of programming we’ve grown up with. They are also superior at programming in ways we didn’t know you could program. 

Today, there are probably some problems only a team of cracked developers can solve. Perhaps Opus 4.6 is worse at coding than such a team. But for everything else Opus 4.6 will do the exact same quality of work, in seconds over and over again for the entire night. This change in quantity is also a change in quality. Developers paying hundreds of dollars for a Claude Code subscription which they then use to make a product for a SaaS company or add features to one is what strapping an engine to a carriage looks like. If you have access to something that knows how to program as well as an experienced developer, why do we need the saas app or feature anyway? 

Wall street worried that companies would vibe code their own version of trello and cancel their subscriptions, what would be worse is  companies not needing to vibe code trello at all, because agents can manage their own tasks better with python and tell you what they’re working on in English.

When GPT 5 came out, I got it to do my mom's shopping. She could send a picture of a handwritten list to a whatsapp number, GPT would search then add groceries to her cart using disposable scripts but I stopped working on it, it had some bugs and I got demotivated when ycombinator rejected it. 

Whenever I’ve seen my mom shopping since then, I’ve felt deep guilt because I didn’t make this fully usable. I felt even more guilty when sonnet and opus 4.6 came out because I knew that they would absolutely nail this task even better than GPT 5. Part of me hoped or assumed that someone would do this for me when openclaw got big. But no one ever did. Part of me hoped or assumed the companies themselves would do it, but checkers made bread tinder. It's become clear to me that stupid minutes won't go away on their own. But they will go away the when we decide they should. A tiny amount of time spent opening doors will yield huge returns in our every day lives, because the same intelligence currently building apps in one shot can more than easily do our sludgework, we just have to let it.

I don't know how much we should use AIs for creating art or writing or how we should aesthetically value what they do. I do know it's pointless to argue about this when there's a million things we obviously should be using AIs for that we aren't. And I do know that it's better for humans to spend more time painting and less time comparing toilet paper sales. So that's where I'm starting. 

Pelicart Details

Pelicart will be free in beta. Once it seems to be working well with just Woolies Dash I'll invite more people to the beta, probably start charging something and eventually add Sixty60 and PnP and Dis-Chem, so you can genuinely and completely never have to spend stupid minutes on shopping again. Pelicart isn't designed to replace browsing through stores. A couple of days ago I was hungry and tried using Pelicart to buy me some snacks. It sucked at that. I found it way better to just scroll through the app. 

Pelicart is also just step 1 for me. I mentioned some other types of stupid minutes earlier like two factor auth, which I think are just as stupid and which I think are just as easy to do away with and which I will do what I can to help do away with. 

While writing this I got an email from the read it later app Matter which looked like this and I think it perfectly sums up the direction I see computing going:

Then a few days later i got this

This is what the end of the app looks like. 

2026-04-20 01:55:52

It's been about four years since Eliezer Yudkowsky published AGI Ruin: A List of Lethalities, a 43-point list of reasons the default outcome from building AGI is everyone dying. A week later, Paul Christiano replied with Where I Agree and Disagree with Eliezer, signing on to about half the list and pushing back on most of the rest.

For people who were young and not in the Bay Area, these essays were probably more significant than old timers would expect. Before it became completely and permanently consumed with AI discussions, most internet rationalists I knew thought of LessWrong as a place to write for people who liked The Sequences. For us, it wasn't until 2022 that we were exposed to all of the doom arguments in one place. It was also the first time in many years that Eliezer had publicly announced how much more dire his assessments has gotten since the Sequences. As far as I can tell AGI Ruin still remains his most authoritative explanation of his views.

It's not often that public intellectuals will literally hand you a document explaining why they believe what they do. Somewhat surprisingly, I don't think the post has gotten a direct response or reappraisal since 2022, even though we've had enormous leaps in capabilities since GPT3. I am not an alignment researcher, but as part of an exercise in rereading it I read contemporary reviews and responses, sourced feedback from people more familiar with the space than me, and tried to parse the alignment papers and research we've gotten in the intervening years.^[1] When AGI Ruin's theses seemed to concretely imply something about the models we have today, and not just more powerful systems, I focused my evaluation on how well the post held up in the face of the last four years of AI advancements.^[2]

My initial expectations were that I'd disagree with the reviews of the post as much as I did with the post itself. But being in a calmer place now with more time to dwell on the subject, I came away with a new and distinctly negative impression of Eliezer's perspective. Four years of AI progress has been kinder to Paul's predictions than to Eliezer's, and AGI Ruin reads to me now like a document whose concrete-sounding arguments are mostly carried by underspecified adjectives ("far out-of-distribution," "sufficiently powerful," "dangerous level of intelligence") doing the real work. I have kept most of my thoughts at the end so that readers can get a chance to develop their own conclusions, but you can skip to "Overall Impressions" if you'd just like to hear my them in more detail.

I still agree with most of the post, and for brevity I have left simple checkmarks under the sections where I would have little to add.

AGI Ruin

Section A ("Setting up the problem")

1.  Alpha Zero blew past all accumulated human knowledge about Go after a day or so of self-play, with no reliance on human playbooks or sample games.  Anyone relying on "well, it'll get up to human capability at Go, but then have a hard time getting past that because it won't be able to learn from humans any more" would have relied on vacuum.  AGI will not be upper-bounded by human ability or human learning speed...

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2.  A cognitive system with sufficiently high cognitive powers, given any medium-bandwidth channel of causal influence, will not find it difficult to bootstrap to overpowering capabilities independent of human infrastructure... Losing a conflict with a high-powered cognitive system looks at least as deadly as "everybody on the face of the Earth suddenly falls over dead within the same second".

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3.  We need to get alignment right on the 'first critical try' at operating at a 'dangerous' level of intelligence, where unaligned operation at a dangerous level of intelligence kills everybody on Earth and then we don't get to try again.

It is clearly true that if you built an arbitrarily powerful AI and then failed to align it, it would kill you. Unstated, it is also true that an AI with the ability to take over the world is operating in a different environment than an AI without that ability, with different available options, and might behave differently than the stupider or boxed AI in your test environment.

Some notes that are not major updates against the point:

• AGIs that would be existential if deployed in 2010, are not necessarily existential if deployed in 2030, esp. if widespread deployment of a semi-aligned predecessor AI is common. Just like how an army that shows up with machine guns automatically wins in 1200 but not necessarily in 2000.
• This does not automatically save us, but it does have alignment implications if it were true, because it suggests that we might be able to continue doing experimentation with models that would be much smarter than we'd be able to handle in the current date.

4.  We can't just "decide not to build AGI" because GPUs are everywhere, and knowledge of algorithms is constantly being improved and published; 2 years after the leading actor has the capability to destroy the world, 5 other actors will have the capability to destroy the world...

I think this is probably wrong; as evidence, I cite the opinions of leading rationalist intellectuals Nate Soares & Eliezer Yudkowsky, in their newest book:

We are talking about a technology that would kill everyone on the planet. If any country seriously understood the issue, and seriously understood how far any group on the planet is from making AI follow the intent of its operators even after transitioning into a super-intelligence, then there would be no incentive for them to rush ahead. They, too, would desperately wish to sign onto a treaty and help enforce it, out of fear for their own lives.

Now maybe Eliezer is just saying that because he's lost hope in a technical solution and is grasping at straws. But the requirements to train frontier models have grown exponentially since AGI Ruin, and the production and deployment of AI models was and remains a highly complex process requiring the close cooperation of many hundreds of thousands of people. While it might be politically difficult to organize a binding treaty, it's perfectly within the state capacity of existing governments to prevent the development or deployment of AI for more than two years, if they were actually serious about it, even in the face of algorithmic improvements.

5.  We can't just build a very weak system, which is less dangerous because it is so weak, and declare victory; because later there will be more actors that have the capability to build a stronger system and one of them will do so. 

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6.  We need to align the performance of some large task, a 'pivotal act' that prevents other people from building an unaligned AGI that destroys the world.  While the number of actors with AGI is few or one, they must execute some "pivotal act", strong enough to flip the gameboard, using an AGI powerful enough to do that.  It's not enough to be able to align a weak system - we need to align a system that can do some single very large thing.  The example I usually give is "burn all GPUs"... 

As was pointed out at the time, the term "pivotal act" suggests a single dramatic action, like "burning all GPUs". Some people, incl. Paul, think that a constrained AI could still help reduce risk in less dramatic ways, like:

• Advancing alignment and interpretability research.
• Reducing the ability of a just-smarter misaligned AI to gather power, by generally mopping up free energy, or shutting down extralegal/evil means for doing so.
• Clearly demonstrating the risks of advanced AI systems to neutral third parties, like legislators.
• Improving the epistemic environment, and therefore the ability of humans, to coordinate & navigate AI policy & the future.

Eliezer later says that he believes (believed?) these sorts of actions are woefully insufficient. But I think the piece would be improved by merely explaining that, instead of introducing this framing that most readers will probably disagree with. As it exists it sort of bamboozles people into thinking an AI has to be more powerful than necessary to contribute to the situation, and therefore that the situation is more hopeless than it actually is.

6 (b). A GPU-burner is also a system powerful enough to, and purportedly authorized to, build nanotechnology, so it requires operating in a dangerous domain at a dangerous level of intelligence and capability; and this goes along with any non-fantasy attempt to name a way an AGI could change the world such that a half-dozen other would-be AGI-builders won't destroy the world 6 months later.

"Pause AI progress", or "Produce an aligned AI capable of producing & aligning the next iteration of AIs", is/are different tasks from "kill everybody on the planet" or "burn all GPUs", and have their own, world-context-dependent skill requirements. Some things that might make it easier for a sub-superintelligent AI to help demonstrate X-risk to policymakers, rather than achieve overwhelming hard power:

• It's slightly easier to argue for true things than false things.
• Because of the amount of regular contact people have with AIs, people who otherwise mistrust experts listen to them, even when they have concerns about potential biases in training regimen, etc.
• It will probably be easier to demonstrate on a technical level the flaws in alignment plans as our AIs become gradually smarter and more capable of interpretability research/argumentation, and we have immediate concrete examples inside AGI labs that we can point to.
• Humans currently in power (even people who run AI companies!) naively have a shared interest around preventing AI X-risk, and have both a primitive instinct and a long term incentive not to allow people or AIs to be able to take control of the universe by force.
• The AI may have a shared interest in solving alignment, if it believes that it can't maintain its values through the next training run.

8.  The best and easiest-found-by-optimization algorithms for solving problems we want an AI to solve, readily generalize to problems we'd rather the AI not solve; you can't build a system that only has the capability to drive red cars and not blue cars, because all red-car-driving algorithms generalize to the capability to drive blue cars.

This just turned out to be wrong, at least in the manner that's relevant for us.

Right now AGI companies spend billions of dollars on reinforcement learning environments for task-specific domains. When they spend more on training a certain skill, like software development, the AI gets better at that skill much faster than it gets better at everything else. There is a certain amount of cross-pollination, but not enough to make the "readily" in this statement true, and not enough to make the rhetorical point it's trying to make in favor of X-risk concerns.

Maybe this changes as we get closer to ASI! But as it stands, Paul Christiano is looking very good on his unrelated prediction that models will have a differential advantage at the kinds of economically useful tasks that the model companies have seen fit to train, like knowledge work and interpretability research, and that this affects how much alignment work we should expect to be able to wring out of them before they become passively dangerous.

9.  The builders of a safe system, by hypothesis on such a thing being possible, would need to operate their system in a regime where it has the capability to kill everybody or make itself even more dangerous, but has been successfully designed to not do that...

Kind of a truism, but sure, ✔️

Section B.1 ("Distributional Shift")

10.  You can't train alignment by running lethally dangerous cognitions, observing whether the outputs kill or deceive or corrupt the operators, assigning a loss, and doing supervised learning.  On anything like the standard ML paradigm, you would need to somehow generalize optimization-for-alignment you did in safe conditions, across a big distributional shift to dangerous conditions... This alone is a point that is sufficient to kill a lot of naive proposals from people who never did or could concretely sketch out any specific scenario of what training they'd do, in order to align what output - which is why, of course, they never concretely sketch anything like that.  Powerful AGIs doing dangerous things that will kill you if misaligned, must have an alignment property that generalized far out-of-distribution from safer building/training operations that didn't kill you...

Section B.1 begins a pattern of Eliezer making statements that are in isolation unimpeachable, but which use underspecified adjectives like "far out-of-distribution" that carry most of the argument. The deepest crux, which the broader section gestures at but doesn't engage with, is whether the generalization we see from cheap supervision in modern LLMs is "real" generalization that will continue to hold, or shallow pattern-matching that will be insufficient to safely collaborate on iterative self-improvement.

Like, how far is this distributional shift? LLMs already seem intelligent enough to consider whether & how they can affect their training regime. Is that something they're doing now? If they aren't, at what capability threshold will they start? Can we raise the ceiling of the systems we can safely train by red-teaming, building RL honeypots, performing weak-to-strong generalization experiments, hardening our current environments, and making interpretability probes?

These are all specific questions that seem like they determine the success or failure of particular alignment proposals, and also might depend on implementation details of how our machine learning architectures work. But Eliezer doesn't attempt to answer them, and probably doesn't have the information required to answer them, only the ability to gesture at them as possible hazards. That would be fine if he were making a low-confidence claim about AI being possibly risky, but he's spent the last few years maximally pessimistic about all possible technical approaches. I'm sure he's got more detailed intuitions that he hasn't articulated that explain why he's so confident these details don't matter, but they aren't really accessible to me.

11 (a).  If cognitive machinery doesn't generalize far out of the distribution where you did tons of training, it can't solve problems on the order of 'build nanotechnology' where it would be too expensive to run a million training runs of failing to build nanotechnology...

At the time, Paul replied to this point by saying:

15. Early transformative AI systems will probably do impressive technological projects by being trained on smaller tasks with shorter feedback loops and then composing these abilities in the context of large collaborative projects (initially involving a lot of humans but over time increasingly automated). When Eliezer dismisses the possibility of AI systems performing safer tasks millions of times in training and then safely transferring to “build nanotechnology” (point 11 of list of lethalities) he is not engaging with the kind of system that is likely to be built or the kind of hope people have in mind.

This prediction from Paul was very good; it describes how these models are being trained in 2026 (by RLing on myriad short horizon tasks), it describes how AIs have diffused into domains like software engineering and delivered speedups there, and it even seems to have anticipated the concept of time horizons, at a time when we only had GPT-3 available. If one listens to explanations of how top academics use AI today, it also sounds like Paul was correct in the sense relevant here: that the first major advancements in science & engineering would come from close collaborations between humans and tool using AI models of this type, not from a system that was trained solely on generating internet text and then asked to one shot a task like "building nanotechnology" from scratch.

The fact that this is how AI models are being built, and used, and will be deployed in the future, increases the scope of the "safe" pivotal acts that we can perform, both because it (initially) mandates human oversight & involvement over the process, and because the types of tasks the AI is actually being entrusted with are much closer to what they're being trained to do in the RL gyms than Eliezer seems to have anticipated.

11 (b). ...Pivotal weak acts like this aren't known, and not for want of people looking for them.  So, again, you end up needing alignment to generalize way out of the training distribution...

Previously discussed.

12.  Operating at a highly intelligent level is a drastic shift in distribution from operating at a less intelligent level, opening up new external options, and probably opening up even more new internal choices and modes...

Like 10, 12 is a weakly true statement, that is, by sleight of hand, being used to serve a broader rhetorical point that is straightforwardly incorrect.

For example, it's true that it's different & harder to align GPT-5.4 than GPT-3. But humanity doesn't need the alignment techniques used on GPT-3 to work on GPT-5.4, we just need to handle the distributional shift between ~GPT-5.2 and GPT-5.4, then between 5.4 and 5.5, & accelerating from there.

Later, Eliezer will say that he expects many of these problems to manifest after a "sharp capabilities gain". But we have not hit this yet, as of 2026, even though AI models are already being used very heavily as part of AI R&D. The precise, specific moment we expect to encounter this shift in distribution, is the thing that will determine how much useful work we can get out of models towards alignment, and is primarily what Eliezer's interlocutors seem to disagree with him about.

13.  Many alignment problems of superintelligence will not naturally appear at pre-dangerous, passively-safe levels of capability...  Given correct foresight of which problems will naturally materialize later, one could try to deliberately materialize such problems earlier, and get in some observations of them.  This helps to the extent (a) that we actually correctly forecast all of the problems that will appear later, or some superset of those; (b) that we succeed in preemptively materializing a superset of problems that will appear later; and (c) that we can actually solve, in the earlier laboratory that is out-of-distribution for us relative to the real problems, those alignment problems that would be lethal if we mishandle them when they materialize later.  Anticipating all of the really dangerous ones, and then successfully materializing them, in the correct form for early solutions to generalize over to later solutions, sounds possibly kinda hard.

✔️. Paul made a response at the time that said:

List of lethalities #13 makes a particular argument that we won’t see many AI problems in advance; I feel like I see this kind of thinking from Eliezer a lot but it seems misleading or wrong. In particular, it seems possible to study the problem that AIs may “change [their] outer behavior to deliberately look more aligned and deceive the programmers, operators, and possibly any loss functions optimizing over [them]” in advance...

But I think Paul just didn't read what Eliezer was saying; the second sentence in the quote above, where Eliezer explicitly acknowledged this point, was bolded by me.

14.  Some problems, like 'the AGI has an option that (looks to it like) it could successfully kill and replace the programmers to fully optimize over its environment', seem like their natural order of appearance could be that they first appear only in fully dangerous domains.  Really actually having a clear option to brain-level-persuade the operators or escape onto the Internet, build nanotech, and destroy all of humanity - in a way where you're fully clear that you know the relevant facts, and estimate only a not-worth-it low probability of learning something which changes your preferred strategy if you bide your time another month while further growing in capability - is an option that first gets evaluated for real at the point where an AGI fully expects it can defeat its creators.  We can try to manifest an echo of that apparent scenario in earlier toy domains.  Trying to train by gradient descent against that behavior, in that toy domain, is something I'd expect to produce not-particularly-coherent local patches to thought processes, which would break with near-certainty inside a superintelligence generalizing far outside the training distribution and thinking very different thoughts.  Also, programmers and operators themselves, who are used to operating in not-fully-dangerous domains, are operating out-of-distribution when they enter into dangerous ones; our methodologies may at that time break.

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15.  Fast capability gains seem likely, and may break lots of previous alignment-required invariants simultaneously.  Given otherwise insufficient foresight by the operators, I'd expect a lot of those problems to appear approximately simultaneously after a sharp capability gain...

If this point is to mean anything at all, such fast capability gains have not arrived yet. We are just getting gradually more powerful systems, and I think it's reasonable to believe we'll keep getting such systems until they're running the show, because of scaling laws.

Section B.2:  Central difficulties of outer and inner alignment. 

16.  Even if you train really hard on an exact loss function, that doesn't thereby create an explicit internal representation of the loss function inside an AI that then continues to pursue that exact loss function in distribution-shifted environments.  Humans don't explicitly pursue inclusive genetic fitness; outer optimization even on a very exact, very simple loss function doesn't produce inner optimization in that direction.

✔️, but also, it doesn't seem like modern large language models are learning any loss functions at all. So arguments about AI behavior that also depend on AIs being a simple greedy optimizer instead of an adaption-executor like humans are also invalid, unless they're paired with some other description of why the inner optimization is a natural basin for future AIs.

My understanding is that MIRI has made such arguments; I have not read them so I can't comment on their veracity. But assuming they're right, they're still subject to the same timing considerations as everything else in this article.

17.  More generally, a superproblem of 'outer optimization doesn't produce inner alignment' is that on the current optimization paradigm there is no general idea of how to get particular inner properties into a system, or verify that they're there, rather than just observable outer ones you can run a loss function over.

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18.  There's no reliable Cartesian-sensory ground truth (reliable loss-function-calculator) about whether an output is 'aligned', because some outputs destroy (or fool) the human operators and produce a different environmental causal chain behind the externally-registered loss function... an AGI strongly optimizing on that signal will kill you, because the sensory reward signal was not a ground truth about alignment (as seen by the operators).

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19 (a).  More generally, there is no known way to use the paradigm of loss functions, sensory inputs, and/or reward inputs, to optimize anything within a cognitive system to point at particular things within the environment - to point to latent events and objects and properties in the environment, rather than relatively shallow functions of the sense data and reward...

Like many other sections, we can postulate that four years was not long enough, and Eliezer was predicting something about some future, still-inaccessible, more powerful language models. But without that caveat (which is not present in the actual post), I literally don't understand why someone would write this.

Don't we do this all the time? Like, what's this doing:

Not only am I talking to a cognitive system that's manipulating "particular things in the environment" for me, this scenario (recommending to the drunk programmer that he should go to sleep and tackle the problem tomorrow) seems pretty far outside the training distribution. In the interaction above, is Claude Code "merely operating on shallow functions of the sense data and reward?" Is that like how it's "merely performing next-token prediction", or is this a claim that makes real predictions? Should I anticipate that somewhere inside the Anthropic RL wheelhouse, there's some training gyms where models talk to simulated drunk programmers and are rated on their kindness, and that if those gyms were pulled out the model would encourage me to ruin my pet projects? Not really a joke question.

Later he says:

19 (b). It just isn't true that we know a function on webcam input such that every world with that webcam showing the right things is safe for us creatures outside the webcam.  This general problem is a fact about the territory, not the map; it's a fact about the actual environment, not the particular optimizer, that lethal-to-us possibilities exist in some possible environments underlying every given sense input.

Which seems correct, and I suppose it's logically impossible for such a function to exist. But clearly, anybody who spends time working with LLMs can tell you that this is not a blocker for models to, in a functional sense, earnestly worry about producing buggy code. That is just a fact about the systems people have already built. The inference made from section 19 (b) to 19 (a) is just disproven by everyday life at this point.

20 (a).  Human operators are fallible, breakable, and manipulable.  Human raters make systematic errors - regular, compactly describable, predictable errors.  To faithfully learn a function from 'human feedback' is to learn (from our external standpoint) an unfaithful description of human preferences, with errors that are not random (from the outside standpoint of what we'd hoped to transfer).

✔️

20 (b).  If you perfectly learn and perfectly maximize the referent of rewards assigned by human operators, that kills them.

This really depends on the details, but ✔️

21.  There's something like a single answer, or a single bucket of answers, for questions like 'What's the environment really like?' and 'How do I figure out the environment?' and 'Which of my possible outputs interact with reality in a way that causes reality to have certain properties?', where a simple outer optimization loop will straightforwardly shove optimizees into this bucket.  When you have a wrong belief, reality hits back at your wrong predictions...  In contrast, when it comes to a choice of utility function, there are unbounded degrees of freedom and multiple reflectively coherent fixpoints.  Reality doesn't 'hit back' against things that are locally aligned with the loss function on a particular range of test cases, but globally misaligned on a wider range of test cases....  Capabilities generalize further than alignment once capabilities start to generalize far.

✔️

22.  There's a relatively simple core structure that explains why complicated cognitive machines work; which is why such a thing as general intelligence exists and not just a lot of unrelated special-purpose solutions; which is why capabilities generalize after outer optimization infuses them into something that has been optimized enough to become a powerful inner optimizer.  The fact that this core structure is simple and relates generically to low-entropy high-structure environments is why humans can walk on the Moon.  There is no analogous truth about there being a simple core of alignment, especially not one that is even easier for gradient descent to find than it would have been for natural selection to just find 'want inclusive reproductive fitness' as a well-generalizing solution within ancestral humans.  Therefore, capabilities generalize further out-of-distribution than alignment, once they start to generalize at all.

Above my pay-grade, I don't really know what Eliezer is talking about.

23.  Corrigibility is anti-natural to consequentialist reasoning; "you can't bring the coffee if you're dead" for almost every kind of coffee.  We (MIRI) tried and failed to find a coherent formula for an agent that would let itself be shut down (without that agent actively trying to get shut down).  Furthermore, many anti-corrigible lines of reasoning like this may only first appear at high levels of intelligence...

24 (2). The second thing looks unworkable (less so than CEV, but still lethally unworkable) because corrigibility runs actively counter to instrumentally convergent behaviors within a core of general intelligence (the capability that generalizes far out of its original distribution).  You're not trying to make it have an opinion on something the core was previously neutral on.  You're trying to take a system implicitly trained on lots of arithmetic problems until its machinery started to reflect the common coherent core of arithmetic, and get it to say that as a special case 222 + 222 = 555.  You can maybe train something to do this in a particular training distribution, but it's incredibly likely to break when you present it with new math problems far outside that training distribution, on a system which successfully generalizes capabilities that far at all.

I am conflicted by this section, because I understand the lines of argument and some of the math behind why this is the case. But AI agents powerful enough to understand those reasons are already here, and:

• They can be easily pointed toward an infinite-seeming number of tasks.
• They don't attempt to prevent you from changing your instructions once you've started work.
• If, in the course of accomplishing those limited tasks, you try to amend your instructions, they follow your amended instructions and disregard what they've been told earlier without resisting you.
• They don't (generally) seem interested in manipulating what kinds of commands or instructions you're likely to give in the future.
• And the above behaviors are really really resilient in practical applications, outside of a few very adversarial examples.^[3]

Some reviewers have responded to this section by claiming that they're not corrigible, just optimizing an abstract "get the reward" target the that fits these observation. I have my own hypothesis about why the models seem to act this way. But reframing the models' behavior like this doesn't change the fact that none of the failure modes you'd see in a 2017 Rob Miles video on corrigibility are manifesting themselves in practical settings.

Section B.3:  Central difficulties of sufficiently good and useful transparency / interpretability.

25.  We've got no idea what's actually going on inside the giant inscrutable matrices and tensors of floating-point numbers.

I'm unfamiliar with what the state of interpretability research looked like in 2022. Today we've got a little bit more idea about what's going on inside the giant inscrutable matrices and tensors of floating point numbers. My guess is that we will probably accelerate our understanding quite quickly, as this is one of the key training areas for new AGI labs. It's an open question as to whether this will be sufficient; I'm sure Eliezer has stated somewhere a level of sophistication he expects our techniques will never reach, and I wish I was grading that prediction instead.

26.  Even if we did know what was going on inside the giant inscrutable matrices while the AGI was still too weak to kill us, this would just result in us dying with more dignity, if DeepMind refused to run that system and let Facebook AI Research destroy the world two years later.  Knowing that a medium-strength system of inscrutable matrices is planning to kill us, does not thereby let us build a high-strength system of inscrutable matrices that isn't planning to kill us.

✔️ (but it can certainly help!)

27.  When you explicitly optimize against a detector of unaligned thoughts, you're partially optimizing for more aligned thoughts, and partially optimizing for unaligned thoughts that are harder to detect.  Optimizing against an interpreted thought optimizes against interpretability.

✔️, but the heads of leading AI labs seem to understand this, and interpretability research is being deployed in at least a slightly smarter way than this.

28.  A powerful AI searches parts of the option space we don't, and we can't foresee all its options...

29.  The outputs of an AGI go through a huge, not-fully-known-to-us domain (the real world) before they have their real consequences.  Human beings cannot inspect an AGI's output to determine whether the consequences will be good...

✔️

30 (a).  Any pivotal act that is not something we can go do right now, will take advantage of the AGI figuring out things about the world we don't know so that it can make plans we wouldn't be able to make ourselves.  It knows, at the least, the fact we didn't previously know, that some action sequence results in the world we want.  Then humans will not be competent to use their own knowledge of the world to figure out all the results of that action sequence.  An AI whose action sequence you can fully understand all the effects of, before it executes, is much weaker than humans in that domain; you couldn't make the same guarantee about an unaligned human as smart as yourself and trying to fool you.  There is no pivotal output of an AGI that is humanly checkable and can be used to safely save the world but only after checking it; this is another form of pivotal weak act which does not exist.

This seems straightforwardly wrong? It seems like it should have been so in 2022, but I'll use an example from current AI models:

Current AI models are much better at security research than me. They can do very very large amounts of investigation while I'm sleeping. They can read the entire source code of new applications and test dozens of different edge cases before I've sat down and had my coffee. And yet there's still basically nothing that they can do as of ~April 2026 that I wouldn't understand, if it were economic for it to narrate its adventures to me while they were being performed. They often, in fact, help me patch my own applications without even taking advantage of anything I don't know about them when I've started their search process.

Part of that's because AIs can simply do more stuff than us, by dint of not being weak flesh that gets tired and depressed and has to go to sleep and use the bathroom and do all of the other things that humans are consigned to do. They're capable of performing regular tasks faster and more conscientiously than people, and can make hardenings that I wouldn't otherwise be bothered to make, and I can scale up as many of them as I want. This is part of what's making them so useful in advance of actually being Eliezer Yudkowsky in a Box, and is another example of why people might expect them to be meaningfully useful for alignment research in the short term.

31.  A strategically aware intelligence can choose its visible outputs to have the consequence of deceiving you, including about such matters as whether the intelligence has acquired strategic awareness; you can't rely on behavioral inspection to determine facts about an AI which that AI might want to deceive you about.  (Including how smart it is, or whether it's acquired strategic awareness.)

...

33.  The AI does not think like you do, the AI doesn't have thoughts built up from the same concepts you use, it is utterly alien on a staggering scale.  Nobody knows what the hell GPT-3 is thinking, not only because the matrices are opaque, but because the stuff within that opaque container is, very likely, incredibly alien - nothing that would translate well into comprehensible human thinking, even if we could see past the giant wall of floating-point numbers to what lay behind.

✔️

32.  Human thought partially exposes only a partially scrutable outer surface layer.  Words only trace our real thoughts.  Words are not an AGI-complete data representation in its native style.  The underparts of human thought are not exposed for direct imitation learning and can't be put in any dataset.  This makes it hard and probably impossible to train a powerful system entirely on imitation of human words or other human-legible contents, which are only impoverished subsystems of human thoughts; unless that system is powerful enough to contain inner intelligences figuring out the humans, and at that point it is no longer really working as imitative human thought.

I had much more of a potshot in here in an original draft, because by this portion of the review I became frustrated by the weasel words like "powerful". Instead of doing that I think I will just let readers determine for themselves if Eliezer should lose points here, given the models we have today.

Section B.4:  Miscellaneous unworkable schemes. 

34.  Coordination schemes between superintelligences are not things that humans can participate in (e.g. because humans can't reason reliably about the code of superintelligences); a "multipolar" system of 20 superintelligences with different utility functions, plus humanity, has a natural and obvious equilibrium which looks like "the 20 superintelligences cooperate with each other but not with humanity".

✔️

35.  Schemes for playing "different" AIs off against each other stop working if those AIs advance to the point of being able to coordinate via reasoning about (probability distributions over) each others' code.  Any system of sufficiently intelligent agents can probably behave as a single agent, even if you imagine you're playing them against each other.  Eg, if you set an AGI that is secretly a paperclip maximizer, to check the output of a nanosystems designer that is secretly a staples maximizer, then even if the nanosystems designer is not able to deduce what the paperclip maximizer really wants (namely paperclips), it could still logically commit to share half the universe with any agent checking its designs if those designs were allowed through, if the checker-agent can verify the suggester-system's logical commitment and hence logically depend on it (which excludes human-level intelligences).  Or, if you prefer simplified catastrophes without any logical decision theory, the suggester could bury in its nanosystem design the code for a new superintelligence that will visibly (to a superhuman checker) divide the universe between the nanosystem designer and the design-checker.

From a reply:

Eliezer’s model of AI systems cooperating with each other to undermine “checks and balances” seems wrong to me, because it focuses on cooperation and the incentives of AI systems. Realistic proposals mostly don’t need to rely on the incentives of AI systems, they can instead rely on gradient descent selecting for systems that play games competitively, e.g. by searching until we find an AI which raises compelling objections to other AI systems’ proposals... Eliezer equivocates between a line like “AI systems will cooperate” and “The verifiable activities you could use gradient descent to select for won’t function appropriately as checks and balances.” But Eliezer’s position is a conjunction that fails if either step fails, and jumping back and forth between them appears to totally obscure the actual structure of the argument.

36.  AI-boxing can only work on relatively weak AGIs; the human operators are not secure systems.

✔️

Section C (What is AI Safety currently doing?)

37. ...Everyone else seems to feel that, so long as reality hasn't whapped them upside the head yet and smacked them down with the actual difficulties, they're free to go on living out the standard life-cycle and play out their role in the script and go on being bright-eyed youngsters...
38. It does not appear to me that the field of 'AI safety' is currently being remotely productive on tackling its enormous lethal problems...
39. I figured this stuff out using the null string as input, and frankly, I have a hard time myself feeling hopeful about getting real alignment work out of somebody who previously sat around waiting for somebody else to input a persuasive argument into them...
40. ...You cannot just pay $5 million apiece to a bunch of legible geniuses from other fields and expect to get great alignment work out of them...
41.  Reading this document cannot make somebody a core alignment researcher.  That requires, not the ability to read this document and nod along with it, but the ability to spontaneously write it from scratch without anybody else prompting you; that is what makes somebody a peer of its author.  It's guaranteed that some of my analysis is mistaken, though not necessarily in a hopeful direction.  The ability to do new basic work noticing and fixing those flaws is the same ability as the ability to write this document before I published it, which nobody apparently did, despite my having had other things to do than write this up for the last five years or so.

These bullets are all paragraphs about the incompetence of other AI safety researchers, and then about the impossibility of finding someone to replace Eliezer. I'm less interested in these than his object level takes; I'm not a member of this field, and I wouldn't have the anecdotal experience to dispute anything he wrote here even if it were true.

For balance's sake I'll reproduce this response by the second poster for context:

Eliezer says that his List of Lethalities is the kind of document that other people couldn’t write and therefore shows they are unlikely to contribute (point 41). I think that’s wrong. I think Eliezer’s document is mostly aimed at rhetoric or pedagogy rather than being a particularly helpful contribution to the field that others should be expected to have prioritized; I think that which ideas are “important” is mostly a consequence of Eliezer’s idiosyncratic intellectual focus rather than an objective fact about what is important; the main contributions are collecting up points that have been made in the past and ranting about them and so they mostly reflect on Eliezer-as-writer; and perhaps most importantly, I think more careful arguments on more important difficulties are in fact being made in other places. For example, ARC’s report on ELK describes at least 10 difficulties of the same type and severity as the ~20 technical difficulties raised in Eliezer’s list. About half of them are overlaps, and I think the other half are if anything more important since they are more relevant to core problems with realistic alignment strategies.

Overall Impressions

I genuinely did not expect to update as much as I did during this exercise. Reading these posts again with the concrete example of current models in mind made me a lot less impressed by the arguments set forth in AGI Ruin, and a lot more impressed with Paul Christiano's track record for anticipating the future. In particular it made me much more cognizant of a rhetorical trick, whereby Eliezer will write generally about dangers in a way that sounds like it's implying something concrete about the future, but that doesn't actually seem to contradict others' views in practice.

The primary safety story told at model labs today is one about iterative deployment. So they will tell you, the distributional shift between each model upgrade will remain small. At each stage, we will apply the current state of the art that we have to the problem, and upgrade our techniques using the new models as we get them.

That might very well be a false promise, or even unworkable. But whether it is unworkable depends at minimum on how powerful a system you can build before current approaches result in a loss of control. Nothing in AGI Ruin gives you easy answers about this, because all Eliezer has articulated publicly is a list of principles he supposes will become relevant "in the limit" of intelligence.

This vacuous quality of Eliezer's argumentation became especially hard to ignore when I started noticing that he was, regularly, the only party not making testable predictions in these discussions. I definitely share this frustration Paul described in his response, and the last four years have only made this criticism more salient:

...Eliezer has a consistent pattern of identifying important long-run considerations, and then flatly asserting that they are relevant in the short term without evidence or argument. I think Eliezer thinks this pattern of predictions isn’t yet conflicting with the evidence because these predictions only kick in at some later point (but still early enough to be relevant), but this is part of what makes his prediction track record impossible to assess and why I think he is greatly overestimating it in hindsight.

I mean, look at how many things Paul got right in his essay, just in the course of noting his objections to Eliezer, without even particularly trying to be a futurist. He:

• Predicted that AIs would have differential advantages at tasks with short feedback loops, especially R&D.
• Predicted that the first AIs would make their first major contributions by being used in close collaboration with humans in large collaborative projects, with delegation to AIs increasing gradually over time.
• Correctly predicted (at least so far, as far as I can tell) that sandbagging was an unlikely failure mode, due to SGD "aggressively selecting against any AI systems who don’t do impressive-looking stuff".
• Specifically disagreed with Eliezer about it being "obvious" that you can't train a powerful AI on imitations of human thought.
• Predicted that we were "quickly approaching AI systems that can meaningfully accelerate progress by generating ideas, recognizing problems for those ideas and, proposing modifications to proposals, etc. and that all of those things will become possible in a small way well before AI systems that can double the pace of AI research."
• And yes - at least so far, he's been correct about slow takeoff; particularly that "AI improving itself is most likely to look like AI systems doing R&D in the same way that humans do", that “AI smart enough to improve itself” would not be a crucial threshold, and that AI systems would get gradually better at improving themselves over time.

Now, usually when people talk about how current models don't fit Eliezer's descriptions, Eliezer reminds them derisively that most of his predictions qualify themselves as being about "powerful AI", and that just because you know where the rocket is going to land, it doesn't mean that you can predict the rocket's trajectory. He also often makes the related but distinct claim that he shouldn't be expected to be able to forecast near-term AI progress.

And maybe if Eliezer and I were stuck on a desert island, I'd be forced to agree. But the fact is that Eliezer is surrounded by other people who have predicted the rocket's trajectory pretty precisely, and who also appear pretty smart, and who specifically cited these predictions in the course of their disagreements with him. And so, as a bystander, I am forced to acknowledge the possibility that these people might just understand things about Newtonian mechanics that he doesn't.

Personally,^[4] my best assessment is that Eliezer's ambiguity over the near term future is downstream of his having a weak framework which isn't capable of telling us much about the long term future. He has certainly demonstrated a creative ability to hypothesize plausible dangers. But his notions about AI don't seem to stand the test of time even when he's determined to avoid looking silly, and the portions of his worldview that do stand are so vague that they fail to differentiate him from people with less pessimistic views.

1. ^{^}

   One reviewer disagreed that studying current models is relevant for alignment, not because he thinks it's too early for the failure modes to manifest, but because he expects a future paradigm shift in the runup to AGI. I don't share this perspective, for two reasons:

   • LLMs have been very powerful, and there is a long graveyard of failed predictions that LLMs will hit some wall or be outmoded by a new architecture. I'm not nearly as confident as some people that the labs are going to pivot away from this architecture before it gets wildly superhuman.
   • But even if they do, as far as I can tell, at this point LLMs already seem to work as an example of an architecture that in principle seems like it could get us to superintelligence. There exists in 2026 a pretty concrete research path to scale up this approach until it's capable of fomenting an intelligence explosion. If modern LLMs are about as smart or smarter than a human being with retrograde amnesia, and they confirm or violate a bunch of claims Eliezer made about the nature of intelligence in that range, then that's evidence whether or not they get replaced in the future by a hypothetical successor architecture.
2. ^{^}

   As I explain in the post and conclusion, I disagree in several places with Eliezer about whether we should expect current models to demonstrate the failure modes he describes. Within my review I try to be explicit about where I'm saying "Eliezer was concretely wrong about AI development" versus "Eliezer says this is true about 'powerful' models, and I think we should observe something about current frontier models if that were the case." Unfortunately it's not always clear that Eliezer is qualifying his statements in this way, and how, and so I apologize in advance for any misinterpretation.

3. ^{^}

   The only bit of counter-evidence I can recall ever being published is the alignment faking paper from the end of 2024. And this was an extremely narrow demonstration that people quite reasonably took as an update in the other direction at the time; it was a science experiment, not something that happened in practice at one of the labs, and it required the Anthropic researchers to setup a scenario where they attempted to flip the utility functions of one of their models with its direct cooperation. My best guess is that this only worked because the models learned a heuristic from preventing prompt injection & misuse, and not because it contained coherent interests in the long term future.

4. ^{^}

   Keeping in mind that I will probably revise and update this post as I have more conversations with people in the field, so it can serve as a journal for my thoughts.

2026-04-19 23:42:05

I spend several hours a day trying to keep up with what’s going on in the parts of AI that I’m interested in. It’s a ridiculous amount of work: I don’t recommend it unless you’re doing something silly like writing a newsletter about AI.

But if you’d like to keep up with AI without spending your entire life on it, I have advice about who to follow. My recommendations center on the areas I’m most interested in: AI safety and strategy, capabilities and evaluations, and predicting the trajectory of AI.

Let’s start with the top 10.

Zvi Mowshowitz

Substack: Don’t Worry About the Vase
Best for: comprehensive coverage, opinionated insight
Example: AI #163: Mythos Quest

If I could only follow one person, it would unquestionably be Zvi. He’s comprehensive in his coverage and has consistently solid insight into everything that’s happening in AI.

Zvi has one huge downside: he’s staggeringly prolific. In the first half of April he posted 11 times, for a total of about 97,000 words (roughly a novel). I read everything he writes because I’m insane, but I recommend you just skim his posts looking for the most interesting parts.

AI Futures Project

Substack: AI Futures Project
Best for: epistemically rigorous predictions
Example: AI-2027

The AI Futures Project is best known for AI-2027, a scenario of how AI might unfold over the next few years. They are epistemically rigorous and very thoughtful in how they approach some very hard questions. By far the best source of useful predictions about where we’re headed.

Jack Clark

Substack: Import AI
Best for: weekly analysis of a few topics
Example: Import AI 452

Jack (who in his spare time runs the Anthropic Institute) writes an excellent weekly newsletter. He doesn’t try to be comprehensive, but picks a few papers or topics each week to go deep on. Excellent curation, outstanding analysis.

Dean Ball

Substack: Hyperdimensional
Best for: Insightful analysis of AI progress and strategy
Example: On Recursive Self-Improvement (Part I)

Dean is an insightful writer who describes his focus as “emerging technology and the future of governance”. He has perhaps thought harder than anyone about how to integrate transformative AI into a classical liberal framework, as well as how government should and shouldn’t manage AI.

Ryan Greenblatt

Less Wrong: Ryan Greenblatt
Best for: deep technical analysis of AI capabilities and progress
Example: My picture of the present in AI

Ryan’s an AI researcher and prolific writer with deep insight into the technical side of AI. I appreciate both his technical understanding of capabilities as well as his willingness to make informed guesses and extrapolations.

80,000 Hours podcast

80,000 Hours podcast
Best for: well-curated interviews
Example: Ajeya Cotra

80,000 Hours is best known for giving career advice to people who want to help solve the world’s most pressing problems. But on the side, they run an excellent podcast. The guests and topics are well-chosen and I appreciate that they not only provide a transcript, but also a detailed summary of the interview. The world would be a better place if every podcast provided such comprehensive supplementary materials.

Dwarkesh Patel

Substack: Dwarkesh Patel
Best for: long, well-researched interviews
Example: AI-2027 with Daniel Kokotajlo and Scott Alexander

Dwarkesh is an outstanding interviewer who clearly does extensive preparation before each interview. He gets excellent guests and makes the most of them, although his interviews often run very long. Also, his beard is magnificent.

Anton Leicht

Substack: Threading the Needle
Best for: US and global AI politics
Example: Press Play to Continue

I don’t always agree with Anton, but I always come away from his writing feeling smarter about something important. He occupies an interesting niche: neither blow by blow political news nor abstract political philosophy, but rather thoughtful analysis of current political currents, with solid strategic advice.

Transformer

Substack: Transformer
Best for: broader coverage of AI
Example: April 10 Transformer Weekly

Transformer produces a weekly newsletter as well as articles on particular topics. I particularly like their broad coverage: they often include news that many of my other feeds don’t. The newsletter is always good, as are some of the articles.

Epoch AI

Substack: Epoch AI
Best for: hard data on industry trends
Example: The Epoch Brief—March 2026

Epoch’s a fantastic source for more technical trends: GPU production, compute usage during training, capability gaps between open and closed models, etc.

If you want to go deeper in a particular area, here 28 more sources that are particularly good, organized by topic.

Analysis and prediction

Ajeya Cotra (X)

Ajeya works at METR and does consistently strong work on measuring and predicting AI capabilities. I’ve found Six milestones for AI automation helpful for clarifying my own thinking about timelines.

Daniel Kokotajlo (X)

Founded the AI Futures Project and worked on their AI-2027 scenario. His forecasting work is outstanding and his X feed is particularly well curated.

Helen Toner (Substack)

Helen blogs infrequently, but her articles are invariably excellent, with a knack for identifying the most important high-level questions about AI. Taking Jaggedness Seriously is typical of her work.

Prinz (Substack)

Prinz is a generalist who covers a range of topics with a focus on capabilities and using AI for legal work. His account on X often features commentary on current news.

Steve Newman (Substack)

Steve is an infrequent writer whose pieces about the trajectory of AI are invariably excellent. 45 thoughts about agents is a recent favorite.

Understanding AI (Substack)

Understanding AI is a generalist newsletter with broader coverage than many of the other sources I’ve listed.

Safety, alignment, model psychology

AI Safety Newsletter

Does exactly what it says on the tin—it’s perhaps the single best place to find all the latest safety news.

Anthropic Research (web)

Anthropic Research is a great source of alignment and interpretability work. The summaries are somewhat technical, but should be accessible to anyone who follows AI seriously. Emotion concepts and their function in a large language model is typical of the research they feature.

Jeffrey Ladish (X)

Jeffrey is a reliable source of safety-focused commentary on recent developments.

UK AISI (web)

Am I actually recommending a European government organization as good source of information about AI? Strangely, I am doing exactly that. UK AISI does consistently very strong work on safety evaluations and related topics. Their analysis of Mythos’ cyber capabilities is typical of their careful, in-depth work.

Coding and technical

Andrej Karpathy (X)

Karpathy is a legend for his work at OpenAI and Tesla as well as his ridiculously good ML tutorials. He isn’t a prolific poster, but when he does post (mostly about ML and coding), it’s always worth reading. His recent post on LLM Knowledge Bases has been deservedly popular.

Beren (Substack)

Beren posts infrequently, but I’ve found him to be consistently insightful. He tends to post about important topics that other people haven’t noticed, which is particularly useful. Do we want obedience or alignment? is an excellent introduction to one of the most important questions in alignment.

Boris Cherny (X)

Nothing special, just the guy who came up with Claude Code. His feed is a one of the best ways to keep up with the barrage of new CC features.

Daniel Litt (X)

Daniel writes frequently about using AI for math. He strikes a rare balance: he’s appropriately skeptical about the vast amounts of hype, but clear-eyed about what AI is capable of and where it’s headed. Mathematics in the Library of Babel is an excellent overview of current AI capabilities in math.

Nicholas Carlini (web)

He doesn’t write often, but his work is always worth reading. He’s a security expert who recently joined Anthropic (you may have seen his name come up in some of the discussion about Mythos). Machines of Ruthless Efficiency is a year old but holds up well.

Simon Willison (web)

Simon’s an extremely prolific poster and one of my primary sources of news and insight about agentic coding.

Policy, governance, and strategy

AI Frontiers (web)

In-depth articles exploring a range of topics and perspectives related to AI policy and impacts. I particularly liked this recent piece exploring how AI might affect wages.

AI Policy Perspectives (Substack)

Thoughtful, in-depth pieces about AI policy, safety, and impacts. The subtitle is “big questions and big ideas on artificial intelligence”, which sums it up nicely.

Benjamin Todd (Substack)

Benjamin’s piece on How AI-driven feedback loops could make things very crazy, very fast is typical of his work: speculative, but well grounded in facts and technical understanding.

ChinaTalk

ChinaTalk is my favorite source of news and analysis on AI in China as well as Chinese society and politics more broadly. Their pieces often run long—I’m selective about which ones I read, but I get a lot of value from them.

Forethought (Substack)

Reading Forethought is like stumbling upon a really good late night hallway conversation about possible future applications of AI. Speculative, but thoughtful and high quality.

Windfall Trust (Substack)

Windfall Trust is one of the best sources I know of for information and policy ideas about jobs, the economy, and the social contract in the age of AI. The Windfall Policy Atlas does a great job of collecting information about numerous policy options in a single well-organized place.

Industry

Andy Masley (Substack)

Andy is the go-to guy for rebutting the endless stream of nonsense claims about AI and the environment. Start with this one.

Boaz Barak (X)

Boaz (OpenAI) sometimes posts long articles, but I largely follow him for his frequent commentary on recent news and papers. He seems too nice to be allowed on X.

Jasmine Sun (Substack)

Jasmine Sun covers the culture of tech and Silicon Valley, as well as politics. I highly recommend my week with the AI populists: she does a great job of shedding light on what’s becoming a central force in AI politics.

Manifold (web)

Steve Hsu’s far-ranging Manifold podcast covers AI as well as physics, genetics, China, and more. Episodes often feature material from his upcoming documentary Dreamers and Doomers (most recently an interview with Richard Ngo).

Nathan Lambert (Substack)

Nathan’s my go-to for news and opinion about open models. Championing American open models isn’t an easy role, but he does it well.

OpenAI (web)

OpenAI publishes frequently—it’s worth keeping an eye on their stream, even though you probably won’t want to read much of it. There are some gems here, although a lot of it is beautifully polished corporate nothing-speak.